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June 15, 2018 at 12:13 am in reply to: Effectuveness of Council Member Leadership and Members #150874
As ( the other ) Andrew makes clear the phone box is a Community Council initiative so it is the 14 members that “ are being effective.”
P.S. – I declare ( a partial ) interest.
As we don’t want to add to “ the traffic problems “ in benighted Llay – does that mean we can keep our doctors surgery in Gresford.
Hi Council Watcher- as you say the cut to the bus subsidy in 2013-4 was indeed made and I acknowledge that. It was ,to my memory ,passed without protest by the whole council,including David Bithell’s Independent group , and any amendments such as cuts to the mayoralty did not include this item. I would further point out that the current Lead member for the Environment has had 4 subsequent budget rounds as either Deputy Leader or Lead Member to reverse this in whole or part but has neglected to do so.
As you say fewer people use certain bus routes and one factor may be the deteriorating town centre but as part of Labour leading Councils 1996-2005 and ( briefly) May 2012-September 2014 a few steps were taken . A new bus station in the early years ,replacing a series of stand that had festered for aeons, new inner and outer link roads, the start of the Western gateway and the development of the new Asda site and Eagles Meadow to replace this.
In my opinion there are many factors for town centre deterioration,not unique to Wrexham- internet shopping – the world wide crash – the current Uk government’s solution for this of increased austerity ( if you have not got the money you can’t ( or shouldn’t) spend it.) However one Local factor that certainly does not help is the downgrading of Wrexham’s Economic Development department in the past few years.
Gresford now run their own “ independent “ library and regularly get books donated to sell on to others as a way of fundraising. You can drop them off to the library – on Vicarage Lane – just above the Plough- during opening hours ( Tuesday 2-5 pm ) ( Wednesday 2-5 pm ) ( Friday 9-5 pm or ( Saturday 10-1.0 pm ) .February 10, 2018 at 8:51 pm in reply to: Councillor Steps down from Executive Board (merged) #144501
No one could ever accuse Gresford’s Andrew Atkinson of being camera shy, I will bet all comers he will be snapped at the reopening of McDonald, Pappa John’s, and the proposed new coffee shop within the same building. For those unfamiliar with this self publicising individual, fear not, local publications will be clattered in his photo over the coming months, Ty Pawb opening, Techniquest launch, King Street bus station refurb, local scout groups that raise anything over a quid, all the low hanging fruit, all you could ever NOT want in a local politician.
Yes because you never see our MP or AM snatching any photo opportunity they get?
He’s obviously got under the skin of Labour in Wrexham. Reading these infantile posts i’ve come up with a brilliant idea, lets have a men only council with a minimum age of 75, you know like it used to be under Labour. Whatever you do, do NOT have young people from various trades on the council as this could upset the old boys club that used to exist.
Dick – check your history. The last time Laboour had an overall majority on the council was in the first few years of WCBC and > 1/3 of our group was female and in those days I was < 50 – never mind 75. And the only female leader of WCBC was a Labour member .February 8, 2018 at 7:21 pm in reply to: Councillor Steps down from Executive Board (merged) #144410
NOW the HARD work begins having to promote Young People’s services ,when virtually all youth clubs have gone and to promote Anti Poverty when most of us can point out where the pressure comes from. However recognition,if not congratulations from the FIRST Gresford councillor to be on Wrexham’s Executive Board ( 1999-2004) and ( September 2014-May 2015 sic)
Somehow my full text got lost so I will add two points.
The listing was done post Assembly elections so they were in “ the rear view mirror.”
Secondly the mass of the neglect of the “ empty Graves” fell under the non-Labour alliance (2005-2012) hence the incoming minority administration taking the steps we did to address this situation . It is to their eternal shame that some of my 2012 “ colleagues “ reneged on their 2012 contract with their electorate in this ( and many other ) respects.
Dear Mr Bailey, if I can recall when Mr Skates got involved with the listing of the Groves it could have been misconstrued he was supporting the listing of the building due to the fact the assembly elections were on the horizon. This was evident when Carwyn and lesley Griffiths joined in at the protest in order bail him out of the mess he dug himself into.The result a derelict building costing all the taxpayers in the county borough and then you have the ordasity to blame the council shame on you.the blame is clearly on labours and plaid’s doorstep.
One trouble with your scenario Derek is that the application to list came AFTER the 2016 Assembly elections so if “ the elections were on the ) it was a recognition of this that led the Labour group elected in 2012 to initiate discussions with Coleg Cambria to make a positive use of the building. If it is my audacity ( sic ) to point out that the Tory- Independent led executive board in November 2014 pulled the plug on that strategy it is ,unfortunately for your argument , a matter of fact. As to Plaid winning the fight in the Council on this I am perplexed as to how their 2 members of the council ( out of 52 ) managed to do this ,especially as neither had great attendance in the last year of the previous Council !
Forget the million plus figure being thrown around,
They’ve not spent more than £538K on it since 2010, and that includes hundreds of thousands on demolition and asbestos removal, gas and electric, legal fees etc. oh and £35.72 on Security ….
Derek Fisher, It was Not Plaid Cymru who instigated the saving of the former Groves and Grove Park Girls Grammar School. Rather it was a group of people who were and are concerned at the disappearing heritage of Wrexham and area. That group of people are now known as SOH or Save OUR Heritage. They have many many supporters in the Wrexham area. They are people who know more than a little about History, Architecture, and Worth, unlike some folk. As for the Listing… I put the request in for the Building to be Listed on their behalf. I too know more than a little about the history of Wrexham, the Worth of Buildings and especially in this case, the history, heritage, architectural worth, and past individuals involved in the building, the teaching and the actual construction of the School. I could say more, but do not intend writing a book here, nor will I get into fractious arguements with those who have no knowledge of the historic worth, and the architectural worth of that building.
The figure of £1.1 million spent since 2015 is a lie .. a total lie. As for Asbestos, do you realise that before a building can be demolished any asbestos has to be removed from it. That, is LAW. This present arguement is a futile attempt by a Council Exec board who are not worth their salt.
As you say Monitor it was SOH ( an apolitical group) that fought for the heritage and I am aware of a number of politicians – apart from the present Tory-Independent-Independent cabal – both Labour and Plaid who stopped the demolition.. incidentally there were plans being developed by the minority Labour administration 2012- 2014 ( September) to use these buildings productively for education but literally weeks after 10 councillors found their “ Independence these were shelved – hidden agendas were developed and the council ( in my opinion) wasted both time and money on a failed strategy of challenge!
Listen guys, I know you are having a laff, but I really don’t think its the real thing. Sorry to have to correct you, Again.
It will probably do more good than ” the real thing”. This should help crops grow healthily whilst the other grows your gut and rots your teeth. So much for ” healthy eating” and don’t gene going on ” Holidays are coming.” Bah Humbug!
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