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If you believe that load of tosh written by David Icke based on his biased beliefs then you opinions are not valid in this debate. Base your opinions on facts and not on a fiction writer or you might as well quote Stephen King.
What a load of rubbish, loyalty to the crown, God and the laws of the land are paramount in their obligations, anything else are stories put out by the press and distracters. Do your homework first and don’t just believe what you read on Google.
There were and are Freemasons in the opposition party as well. You don’t have to vote Tory to join the Freemasons but you do have to believe in God.
Freemasons fought at the Battle of Alamo, my Uncle fought for Britain in the second world war, voted Labour and joined the Freemasons. You can’t tar them all with the same brush.
Saying a freemason would commit an offence is just like saying that if a Welsh footballer has done this, all Welsh footballers would rape girls on their night out.
It’s too general a statement. I am sure there are freemasons who commit crimes but it does not follow that all would, the same as members of one party (Labour. Tory, LibDem) will,just because one does.
Your statement implied that freemasons were involved in the Bryn Alyn case and that is not even a rumour out there as far as I am aware.
Apart from the fact that 100% of the residents are against it on both sides of Llay we have many legal and factual points against it. But there is no way we are going to declare them this early in the fight, we would be silly and self defeating to do so.
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I for one will hold no truck with anyone who criticises Malcom King.He was the man who quite literally coaxed every victim of the Bryn Estyn Child Abuse scandal to come forward with their story.Of course he made himself unpopular with those with the funny hand shakes.Yes the same type of people who carried out the abuse.Wow,I could say a lot more but the powers that be are watching every word!
Are you trying to say that Malcolm King is a freemason and that Freemasons are the type of men who would commit this type of offence. Firstly I don’t think he is a Freemason and secondly if you knew anything about them you would realise how stupid the remark is.
Just to inform everyone that the petition forms are now in The Llay Resource Centre and also Llay School. If you have not yet signed , please go along as soon as you can.
I’m sure it was posted tongue in cheek and not meant to cause offence to any one. We all lost relations in the Great Wars and I’m sure observed the minutes silence at 11.00am today.
If you are going to jump on that to state your case then you too will lose credibility in this matter. It was just an off the cuff statement that highlighted how serious we are all taking this matter and I must admit I chuckled when I read it and I lost quite a few relations in both the first and second wars.
It will not help local shops because they want to build a store in the middle of the estate. Local tradesmen would not be used because it would have to be a large size builder to take this on and they will bring in their own subcontractors. The anthrax point was made as the farmer was deemed to have used the swill from the pig farm for spraying on the land as fertilizer at the time of the anthrax outbreak. Cattle were dying on this farmland three years ago and were taken away but the result were never published.
I agree that only factual reasons can be used to oppose this application and leaving aside the anthrax problem there are many good reasons to oppose.
It’s interesting to hear the views of a person who is in favour of the estate being built because of the hundreds we have spoke to in this area you are the only one that seems to be for it (not counting the farmer and the architect who are obviously in favour).
I run a business in the Wrexham area and live in Llay. I am against the development as it will bring nothing to the area but will take away green fields, increase traffic and overcrowd the doctors and schools. Llay is a great place to live and I am very proud to be Welsh living in a Welsh village.
If you want a petition in support of this massive site I would recommend you contact the farmer as we could not find anyone else in favour.
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