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TimRegencyParticipantYes, George Osborne’s unprecedented council budget cuts. Strongly endorsed by Tory votes.
TimRegencyParticipantYes, and a few people have made the point that cordoning off large parts of a shop causes people to cram together in the remaining space. If there are also specified times for shopping, then it all creates ideal conditions for infection to spread.
TimRegencyParticipantYes, I think that’s a good idea about reorganising child benefit in the way you suggest, Zinger. As you’ve said, it makes sure the money goes where it’s intended, it removes the stigma of inequality and, most importantly, the children are fed. That’s 3 birds with one stone.
However, you moved away from the OP point a bit by referring to the welfare state in general and to supposed problems like ‘the nanny state’ and attitudes of ‘entitlement.’ I personally think those are made-up right-wing grievances pushed by right-wing papers and that we would need to know exactly what they mean, with some examples, for any debate.
I’m not sure about nowadays, but many of the letters sent to claimants by the DHSS/BA were crammed full of the word ‘entitled.’ They would say ‘We’ve decided that you are entitled to this and entitled to that component of this benefit,’ things like that. So I think it’s a bit unfair for the government to turn around this late and complain about ‘entitled’ attitudes. Besides, why aren’t people entitled to decent standards of social security?
But that’s another debate, at least quite a few of us think your suggestion about child benefit was a good one.
TimRegencyParticipantWould have been sweeter on November 5th. Help us reflect on what might have been.
TimRegencyParticipantI do both, Zinger. I give to charities and food banks and I condemn Conservative cruelty.
TimRegencyParticipantI thought there’s some asbestos material in the police station? If so, demolition by explosives 🧨 is probably not a good idea.
TimRegencyParticipantThe excuse that they’d prefer a long term solution is demonstrably preposterous. This sort of argument is known as a ‘false dichotomy’ because it pretends that the choice is between a short term solution or a long term solution when in fact, it’s possible to have both. The proposal was intended to give relief to hungry children during this pandemic.
In any case, we’ve had 10 years of austerity under the Conservatives that resulted in an explosion of food banks even before this outbreak arrived. The idea that they’re interested in a long term solution would be laughable if it were not so cruel. Besides, this is food we’re talking about. Effectively saying to children ‘you may be hungry today, but don’t worry, we’re planning a long term solution that will come good in a few years time’ is, well, I shouldn’t need to explain the absurd cruelty of it. Their excuses don’t wash.
TimRegencyParticipantExcept it means that Ms Atherton and Mr Baynes voted to make English children go hungry.
I’m surprised Wrexham voters put a ruinous brexit in front of feeding children.
TimRegencyParticipantThe only people politicising everything are hard-right Tories and their foolish, smirking clapping seal supporters.
Socialists endeavour to look after everybody, especially those in need, but Tories treat people like pawns in their stupid frivolous political chess games.
But, whatever, I suspect that I’m wasting my time here, as the platoons of temporarily embarrassed millionaires crawl up to their Conservative masters to clean boot with tongue.
October 15, 2020 at 10:01 pm in reply to: Wrexham MP votes against Farmers and Food Standards. #194567
TimRegencyParticipantThat doesn’t ‘help,’ actually.
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