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I do love to hear everybody talk about the old town and its decline and they all seem to have an answer. Let me say firstly I was raised in a major city and this opens your eyes to some very simple facts of life. You must have the first ingredient in any business and running a town is just the same its no biggy. People !! we have to get people back into this area before anything else can happen. In this I agree with what Mr Lucas said recently in trying to encourage landlords to rethink there properties in the town I believe this is nothing to do with rents or rates but somehow getting the council to fund the regeneration of residential life in this central area. I also believe the Groves site and some others near to the town should be high quality apartments to bring more of this life back. The areas of Hope Regent Lord Queen and other Streets are finished and there is no way to bring retail back to them. The bus station should have been set in Eagles Meadow. This would have been a great site a central bus and coach station for all of North Wales. Putting the Meadow there instead always meant the splitting of the town with only one winner, and big money was talking. Creating real life in the old town area will support small retail units of a new kind again in the future, but we must bring it alive and this means new thinking new lifestyles and moving away from the old ideas. What’s done is done move on or die.
My god the first time I saw these things I could not believe the waste of money again! firstly, because the box for cans has a flap on the front it only has to be partially full and you cant get any more in thus you have to dismantle the stack to fill it. I am told you have to put the full stack out on the road complete and not individual boxes, so they have to dismantle said stack of empty boxes to actually empty one. I want to hear from the bin lads who have to empty these things. I bet they are a pain in the ar e and taking more time than ever. They should be the one’s who decide not some office walla. I walked up Hamden Rd the other day oops it was bin day, I had to walk on the road, pavement was like a bomb site. STOP NOW!! don’t go any further with this stupidity and give it some rethink?. Tell you what put them on Talbot Rd and get off your ass and go have a look. I don’t disagree with recycling but I dread to think of these things on a cold windy day they will be everywhere and when you run into one with your car who is responsible??.
Right from the off this space was earmarked for housing it seams to me this would be an ideal spot for an appartment complex to bring Wrexham into the future. There is always some old duffer trying to save things that don’t need saving and it always results in the taxpayers money going west. A perfect example of this is that old chimney down Tuttle St. who’s idea was that! it looks terrible now and it will have to be maintained or flattened before someone gets hurt and who wants to pay ??. But not to worry we will probably pay for that eventually. The old Groves building will look awfull in ten years time for all our sakes let it go stop this money wasting.
I listen to you guys talk a whole load of rot in this forum. Firstly you are not qualified to comment on such things as driving since none of you can drive. I have driven over 1 million miles in my lifetime and think this give me the right to comment. I was in this car park a few weeks ago and witnessed an accident that demolished the front end of a car as it pulled out of a space. As I looked on the question I asked was how could this happen at
5 mph- well it cant. Almost every accident on the road today is a result of speed and the incompetence to adjust to road conditions- or car park conditions. People walk about aimlessly in this area often children, and its the drivers responsibility to keep it safe, so chill out and slow down. I say rock on ASDA slow them down the only safe speed for fools is 0 mphwell thanks for that info old pal I didn’t know that this will be very useful thank god not everyone in wxm knows this or we never get in
fair doos you gota keep your sence of humour on ere. but come on guys the old royal mail do one elloffa job and remember all those years ago they only delivered 10 letters a week. nowadays they do millions a day and it must be an impossible task to manage it. saying that they do have there problems and I have emailed them only this week myself. but now you mention it, this thing at the sorting office is truly dumb I think this was an insurance issue and they had to close to the public. so its a customer pick up point with no access for the customer good show there. should have gone down the ind est years ago when they had the chance well! maybe
@Alunh 14239 wrote:
We’ve just said goodbye to a load of Spanish youngsters who’ve been in town for the last 2 weeks and who have really enjoyed it. Living and running a business in Wrexham, the largest town in North Wales, you get to see up close the range of folk from all over the place.
Many of these in-coming folk are attracted by Eagles Meadow, and it’s not so long ago that we had no Debenhams, no Bowling Alley and many of the amenities that there are therein. Others are attracted by the 3 Markets and the range of Independent shops that the town retains. Whilst Cob Records has closed in Bangor and Kavern has closed in Rhyl and Llandudno, Wrexham must be fairly unique in North Wales in having 2/3 Independent music retail outlets including Moonlight Records on Bridge Street. This type of presence is the same in several fields.
Whilst we all moan about “things” that go on in the town, the idea that this is some sort of backwater where nothing much happens is a tad ott.
I can’t agree with Benjamin’s comments about the Parking issue because we have the footfall data that shows the patterns of behaviour. Of course, Benjamin is right that one factor does not necessarily by itself account for the number of customers attracted to a town but it plays a part in the package. Where it does make a difference is to all those folk who travel from Hope, Pontblydden, Sychdyn, Buckley, etc who have a choice between shopping in Broughton, Mold or Wrexham. Many of these will opt for cheap or no parking fees.
Lastly, I would remind all readers of Wrexham.Com that a successful town is produced by very small margins of behaviour. A 1% fall in footfall can drive some businesses out of a Town (or existence), whilst losing merely 5% of your customers (1 in 20) can have devastating effects
I’m sorry but I have to go with Benjamin on this one and how you can not see this is amazing. poor old Wrexham has become something of a backwater. footfall? what does it say people come and go but no real detail of what they are doing .I think as an old business guy myself the Vinci thing is more complex than you can c. For example 1 they say they have never made a profit from running this car park 2 if you are not making money why are you there, so its fair to assume they want out. 3 they are a massive company and I would expect they can c no way to improve this situ within there lease time
4 they are now probably looking to break there lease agreement by breaking there t&c’s % 5 huge penalties will probably ensue but this will suit them fine and they can get out of Wrexham 6 overall this will in fact suit everybody as any new contracts that will follow will likely benefit the Meadow and the town and finally I cant c the main owners letting them go so easily and I would expect to c more happenings here in the future before this is concluded@Ponciau 14130 wrote:
Shops are struggling already this will hurt even more don’t know when their contract expires but in my mind the sooner the better!
I believe this is a fifteen year lease so they will be there for a while yet. When will people realise that there is only one thing they want – your money and more full anybody who gives it The answer is as always with this situ. to walk when the car park is empty watch them react. However this will never happen cos everybody likes to moan but not do.
