TimRegency
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People keep conflating Parliament/a General Election with the referendum.
The referendum and brexit is a Tory gig, it’s their policy.
Ian Lucas represents the many who voted against brexit as well as those who voted for it, he’s entitled to use his judgement in exactly the way he has been doing.
If you’re unhappy that brexit hasn’t been implemented, take it up with the Conservative party. It’s their referendum, their squalid deal, their mess. Take the faulty product back to the shop you bought it from.
The Attorney General is an intellectual bum who has spurned basic legal principles, including, but not limited to:
1 The separation of powers.
2 The independence of the judiciary.
3 Equality before the law.
4 Parliamentary Sovereignty.
5 The final binding effect of judgments of the Supreme Court.Mr Lucas owned this bum.
Next.
[quote quote=174576]I don’t agree with the Court’s decision.
Can we have another Court case please.
After we have argued about it for three years of course![/quote]The Supreme Court is the highest court in the land and the final arbiter of legal disputes, so no, you can’t.
It’s constitutional and administrative law – parliamentary sovereignty – look it up.
The law says that Parliament is sovereign, a dictator like Johnson doesn’t get to leapfrog it with a bespoke prorogue.
[quote quote=174517]Just wondering –
Are members of the Supreme Court picked for impartiality?
Will judges who earlier found proroguing legal likely to be asked to resign.
Will laws brought in to frustrate Brexit be found illegal further down the line when applied to other criteria?
Is there any point to elections & referendums?[/quote]In that order,
1. Yes. They’re also picked based on merit – law degrees, higher degrees, qualification and years of experience as solicitors, barristers and judges.
2. No, the precedents they set hold until inspected by a higher court, who will decide whether to uphold or overrule them. That’s how precedent works.
3. Laws dealing with brexit are a matter for Parliament. Judges are apolitical and decide only on matters of law. In this case, on the lawfulness of suspending Parliament.
4. There is a point to elections, but there was no point to the Conservatives’ ludicrous opinion poll.[quote quote=174502]This is messed up. The nation voted to leave, yet it seems more and more likely that eventually the referendum result will end up being overturned.[/quote]
The Conservative opinion poll on the EU and Parliament are two very different things. Many of us voted for Ian Lucas for reasons other than brexit.
The Conservatives made a mess of their own policy on the EU, whatever it’s supposed to be, so I would suggest having a word with them.
[quote quote=174348]To all the school kids going on ‘strike’ for Climate Change:
You are the first generation who have required air-conditioning in every classroom.
You want a TV in every room and your classes are all computerised.
You spend all day and night on electronic devices.
More than ever, you don’t walk or ride bikes to school but arrive in caravans of private cars that choke local roads and worsen rush hour traffic.
You are the biggest consumers of manufactured goods ever and update perfectly good expensive luxury items to stay trendy,
Your entertainment comes from electric devices.
Furthermore, the people driving your protests are the same people who insist on artificially inflating the population growth through immigration, which increases the need for energy, manufacturing and transport.
The more people we have, the more forest and bushland we clear and more of the environment is destroyed.
How about this…
Tell your teachers to switch off the air-con.
Walk or ride to school. Switch off your devices and read a book.
Make a sandwich instead of buying manufactured fast food.
No, none of this will happen because you are selfish, badly educated, virtue signalling little ‘princesses’, inspired by the adults around you who crave a feeling of having a ‘noble cause’ while they indulge themselves in Western luxury and unprecedented quality of life.
Wake up, grow up and learn to research facts and think for yourself and not blindly accept the words and thoughts of others – I don’t think you formulated this action plan all by your self – suspect you may have had some influence and ‘guidance’ from those you trust ….a word of warning, be cautious of the influence of the ‘left’ because there may be a time in the future that you will be the ones left out…[/quote]A ‘tu quoque’ argument. You have nothing.
My message to the climate strikers is good on you for caring about our planet. Keep it up.
I agree. In January of 2016, the Conservatives voted down a Bill to compel landlords to make sure that rented homes were fit for human habitation.
By drafting policies that increase poverty and homelessness (mainly Universal Credit) and making thumping council budget cuts, it is clear that these Conservatives want this sprawl of slums to occur and for you to have to live next to it.
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Type 1 diabetics, epileptics, those with high blood pressure, cancer patients benefiting from Euratom etc are literally having their lives placed at risk.
I’ll join the others in saying well done, Mr Lucas, for trying to do the best by your constituents and not yielding to hysterical propaganda-fuelled populismErm…
TimRegency is one of these people who are scared of change and won’t go out without an umbrella just in case it rains![/quote]
I didn’t mention me, I referred to those people with serious health conditions that require vital medicines from the EU.
Taking risks with other people’s lives doesn’t make you a tough guy.
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