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@zinger 2588 wrote:
You tell me. When he was in court, in mitigation he said that he had started a project to restore the building & had engaged a leading architect. Now that he has ‘sold’ the station who is now responsible?
It makes a mockery of everything if CADW, WCBC & the courts between them can’t do anything to get justice.They didn’t want too.
The press could have embarrassed him too, but they won’t because he pays them advertising and of course their chapters are neighbours.
and how did dickens get away without not paying to get it fixed???
When it comes to property developers the council prefers to kiss than use its teeth… e.g. the moss/roberts pension plan at the racecourse, brymbo, etc
My view is that like the bid for city status, this shouldn’t be job or responsibility of the council, but the community and town stakeplayers
e.g. those will make money from it – local businesses, the shops like debenhams and landowners like those who own eagles meadow.
Local residents if they feel obliged can if they want donate lights or cash.
Schools could donate time to make decorations.
Local communities could donate time to make decorations too.When people volunteer time together, they can create something a 1,000 times better than the council ever could.
link to what one community in barcelona does every year and it’s smaller in size than the golborne estate … Puts us british & welsh to shame. All the decorations are recycled from the rubbish too, money is tight and 1 in 4 are unemployed.
Las calles de las fiestas de Gràcia – Barcelona – El PeriódicoHi boywonder,
where in pakistan do you live, planning a tour of asia in 2015 (transsiberian railway for russia & mongolia,china then india) but have only thought of visiting karachi. recommend anywhere?
Let’s make it clear, all cuts will harm the local economy and therefore a list of which cuts will affect the revenues of local businesses & local people the most, should also be taken into consideration as these will affect future council revenues too….e.g. less car parking revenue, less shop rental revenue, less council tax revenue, etc. Meaning more cuts and even less local GDP, when this is a time the council should be trying to stimulate the economy.
@Sam 2513 wrote:
Right, so, you personally would like the general public to read through several pages reports rather than ‘newspeak’, which I would call bullet points.
Then, the public would hold referendums on the content of the full report’s.
Firstly, I don’t think for one minute that councillors read the full report’s themselves, there’s departments that condense them into bullet points for them. I’ve personally conducted exhaustive surveys, work related, which colleagues would not be able to understand or have no interest in the fineate detail or time too interprete. Therefore I condense it into bullet points.
Referendums on everything, whilst it’s the perfect democracy for decisions to be made, it’s long winded, labour intensive and would you get a true feel for the masses based on the full reports. Or would people just get board with the detail presented and either not both voting or vote incorrectly due to a misinterpretation of the extensive facts.
Those bullet points cannot be proven or questioned. Therefore they are just newspeak. There is no evidence in the public domain to back up ‘the bullet points’ that they are an accurate representation of the spending at the council.
The council has a habit of giving information to councillors that is inadequate newspeak. E.g. eagles meadow, planning permission on the student flats at the racecourse, planning permission on the old brymbo steelworks, the stansty bridge.
The councillors are to blame, responsible and culpable, if they unable to understand or ask the right questions.
Direct Democracy is a valid millenium possibility. We can see this with the emergence of the occupy movement/the pirate party in politics as well as in popular culture such as big brother, x factor, i’m a celeb, britain’s got talent, strictly, etc.
why can’t the constituents be given the same facts? Or do you think they are too stupid to evaluate them?
The accounts & the details given out by the council leaves too much out. Hence why i used the term like newspeak.
The questionnaire doet not give the constituents an opportunity to evaluate. again this is newspeak.
Yes what the council has done is very 1984 because it avoids the opportunity for the voters to speak out, that’s why i used term newspeak (as the term is taken from it) rather than spin.
If the council wanted the constituents to make an informed evaluation they could have chosen a form of direct democracy rather than a survey.
@Chris 2487 wrote:
I wonder how much bin bag sales have gone up since this scheme started. I guess those figures will never be made available as it will reduce quoted enviromenmtal improvement figures. I know that most people I speak to moan about the loss of these free bin bags.
Oh drinks in plastic bottles are taxed.
Take away meals are mostly taxed (VAT reg buisnesses)
Burger warp, foil and trays are taxed.but not a local sales tax to pay for the clean up.
…but according to the council the difficult choices will be influenced by consultation with the electorate of the council. However, it’s a fudge because the only possible answers that the locals give have been decided by the council already.
it’s not democracy.
