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  • #64256

    wxm
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    The great thing is that this is in the public domain. Scores of people have experienced the very same as Alunh; and then turning to “markets” – the model is wrong.

    #64208

    thewayneinspain
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    Out of interest, what are the market rents and rates per square metre or sqaure foot for other local towns…
    chester
    mold
    oswestry
    ellesmere port
    shresbury

    #64209

    thewayneinspain
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    re: online
    there must be scope for some sort of joint website were a customer can buy all the goods from the market in one place and a pay a small delivery charge and get their purchase delivered.

    #64230

    Alunh
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    @thewayneinspain 8724 wrote:

    Out of interest, what are the market rents and rates per square metre or sqaure foot for other local towns…
    chester
    mold
    oswestry
    ellesmere port
    shresbury

    An interesting exercise that may or may not show Wrexham to be cheaper or dearer. Even more of an interesting exercise (as Jimbow mentioned) would be to compare (say) the square foot charges of one Market stall/shop with another, one Market with another and all with (say) private sector shops for rent.

    Additionally, one would have to factor in other detail like perceived levels of competition, footflow, etc

    #64231

    Alunh
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    @thewayneinspain 8725 wrote:

    re: online
    there must be scope for some sort of joint website were a customer can buy all the goods from the market in one place and a pay a small delivery charge and get their purchase delivered.

    A really good idea. In a way, you would expect this to be undertaken by the Market traders. In Chester, they have got as far as organising a website and the Butcher’s Market traders have some online presence. Unfortunately, the Market traders are not well organised and attempts to get them to be have not worked well. There is a NMTF but this has only had limited success and penetration. You may well argue that the Traders, therefore deserve little sympathy if they will not work productively together. I take a slightly different line. The Market is more than about Traders, it is about Tourism, about Heritage, about future opportunity, about providing a necessary Retail variety within the community that services niche demands, etc

    Because of these reasons (and others), if I was the Market manager, I would try to earn my crust and undertake this on behalf of the greater good. There are some fantastic IT specialists working for Wrexham Council, there is a huge Economic Development Department. If Economic Development is what it claims to be, go on…..develop. If I was the Market manager, I would be thinking of all the multi-varied ways that I could make Wrexham Markets cutting edge, vibrant and ahead of the rest

    #64252

    Welsh Dresser
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    Alunh you have my vote!

    #64248

    jimbow
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    Here are a list of stall rents taken from WCBC website of commercial property to let as of today:-The Peoples Market vary from £20.93 to £13.01 per sq ft.The Butchers Market vary from £20.84 to 16.84 per sq ft.The General Market from £17.99 to £11.09 per sq ft.On top of these rents, are added a Service Charge.The Peoples Pay £6.54 per sq ft,the General is £7.94 per sq ft and the Butchers £6.70 per sq ft.

    #64232

    Alunh
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    I gather that there have been some subtle changes in the management structure of the Markets. If this is so, I hope that Amanda can turn it around
    and wish her well in her endeavours

    #64257

    wxm
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    It sounds as if a commitment from highest level decision making are needed. It sounds as if policy decisions on rents, service charges, use, and the key subject these days of “influencing consumer culture & behaviour” are needed.

    A robust common sense approach is needed to give the right “product” to the “consumer” who will “buy into” what’s on offer, and return time after time, and spend cash.

    #64233

    Alunh
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    @wxm 8869 wrote:

    It sounds as if a commitment from highest level decision making are needed. It sounds as if policy decisions on rents, service charges, use, and the key subject these days of “influencing consumer culture & behaviour” are needed.

    A robust common sense approach is needed to give the right “product” to the “consumer” who will “buy into” what’s on offer, and return time after time, and spend cash.

    Yes!!

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