Election outcome — who will make up the Groups and Leadership

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  • #131018

    The Monitor
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    ‘Standing Orders are the *rules* of the Council’. So these current ones seriously NEED to be altered. The alternative is to continue with this virtual dictatorship, by the executive board and their cronies.

    #131021

    wrexview
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    Doubt there is anything in Standing Orders re number to be in a group!!

    #131091

    99DylanJones
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    Rob some good analysis about voter participation — looking quickly at the figures it looks like a large number of Councillors have been elected with less than 18% of the total number of people elected to vote – 82% of the people NOT voting for their elected Councillor.

    #131093

    Samsung
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    Looks like the stormy clouds over the Guildhall Leadership may end with a very pretty Rainbow!!!!

    #131095
    Rob
    Rob
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    Not me – Darryl did that so I am reading it for the first time over a cuppa!

    As a tangent I was pointed to this interesting post on the Save Plas Madoc Facebook page regarding the results and turnout https://www.facebook.com/groups/1388402681406725/permalink/1877799779133677/ and depending on your point of view the result there was either good / bad or indifferent. As you say, the winner there had 14% of the possible turnout and even less if you consider those who did not register to vote.

    However, you can only play the game infront of you and all that!

    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #131096
    Rob
    Rob
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    Cefn was down 5% and was the place where the winner had 579 votes second was 577 and third was 572.

    That 5%, if roughly same electorate, is 189 votes.

    Also the same place where there were 13 invalid ballots http://www.wrexham.com/election2017/ward.php?ward=8

    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #131252

    Matt
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    Not me – Darryl did that so I am reading it for the first time over a cuppa!

    As a tangent I was pointed to this interesting post on the Save Plas Madoc Facebook page regarding the results and turnout https://www.facebook.com/groups/1388402681406725/permalink/1877799779133677/ and depending on your point of view the result there was either good / bad or indifferent. As you say, the winner there had 14% of the possible turnout and even less if you consider those who did not register to vote.

    However, you can only play the game infront of you and all that!

    I was quite vocal on that point, as I’d just seen Blackwell get voted in Live on the Wrexham.com video feed and really needed to vent. It has since thrown up interesting discussions across social media about not berating non-voters within areas perceived as deprived as there is an apparent disconnect between politicians and the ‘have-nots’ but I think that has always been the case. I think many people were unaware that there was a strong non-political type independent candidate standing in the ward but the message didn’t get across to the right number of people.

    I had followed the post up on Wrexham.com’s interesting article about where there was low voter turnout as the discussion had continued on there. There was a small positive note that the turnout in Plas Madoc for local elections had increased from just under 20% last time to 27% this time, which doesn’t look much, but does actually represent a 35% increase in turnout. Which means all the political activism surrounding the Leisure Centre has at least made a few people take a greater interest [or perhaps it was all the Wrexham.com election coverage ;)]

    https://www.facebook.com/wrexhamdotcom/posts/1275158345872245?comment_id=1275243585863721&notif_t=like&notif_id=1494524716012758

    So far though, the best thing I’ve had from all my online political rantings of late is an invite to the pub for a pint as apparently I need to get out more.

    #131302

    Interested
    Participant

    Not me – Darryl did that so I am reading it for the first time over a cuppa!

    As a tangent I was pointed to this interesting post on the Save Plas Madoc Facebook page regarding the results and turnout https://www.facebook.com/groups/1388402681406725/permalink/1877799779133677/ and depending on your point of view the result there was either good / bad or indifferent. As you say, the winner there had 14% of the possible turnout and even less if you consider those who did not register to vote.

    However, you can only play the game infront of you and all that!

    I was quite vocal on that point, as I’d just seen Blackwell get voted in Live on the Wrexham.com video feed and really needed to vent. It has since thrown up interesting discussions across social media about not berating non-voters within areas perceived as deprived as there is an apparent disconnect between politicians and the ‘have-nots’ but I think that has always been the case. I think many people were unaware that there was a strong non-political type independent candidate standing in the ward but the message didn’t get across to the right number of people.

    I had followed the post up on Wrexham.com’s interesting article about where there was low voter turnout as the discussion had continued on there. There was a small positive note that the turnout in Plas Madoc for local elections had increased from just under 20% last time to 27% this time, which doesn’t look much, but does actually represent a 35% increase in turnout. Which means all the political activism surrounding the Leisure Centre has at least made a few people take a greater interest [or perhaps it was all the Wrexham.com election coverage ;)]

    https://www.facebook.com/wrexhamdotcom/posts/1275158345872245?comment_id=1275243585863721&notif_t=like&notif_id=1494524716012758

    So far though, the best thing I’ve had from all my online political rantings of late is an invite to the pub for a pint as apparently I need to get out more.

    Matt, you must be proud of the Facebook page SavePlasMadoc. Vile and disgusting posts by some.

    #131305

    Matt
    Participant

    Matt, you must be proud of the Facebook page SavePlasMadoc. Vile and disgusting posts by some.

    Not in the slightest, I just happened to make my point there as the topic was relevant to that group. Facebook & social media in general is the wild west, you get many people who make reasonable & thought out postings, but many more who think it’s okay to say things on a computer that they would never dare say out loud & don’t even realise that these online postings can potentially be up there forever.

    I would like to point out that some of the worst vile & disgusting comments I’ve ever read come fresh from Wrexham.com news stories on Facebook & that doesn’t make those who run this site any more responsible than those who run the Save Plas Madoc page. It’s the whole thing about internet censorship you can gag all views not aligned with your own that may be considered slightly iffy, or you can let them run within the freedom of speech rules.

    At the end of the day hate type speech is so common online and those people come across as narrow minded idiots.

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