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I’ve said everything I need to RE: immigration.
Obviously goes without saying that an increase in local housing will put a strain on local health service provision both emergency and non-emergency (doctors surgeries).
But that isn’t a new issue – it’s one that’s been going on for a century or more – towns and cities expand – public services need to be increased accordingly to match. It’s not rocket science. If councillors and town planners, Welsh Assembly etc… want North Wales to flourish then and make Local Development Plans work – then they need to put their money where their mouth is and invest by expanding the current 3 major hospitals or build another one to deal with capacity.
Otherwise the Welsh will become health tourists themselves across in England.
Thing is, people completely take the NHS and our A&E access for granted. People moan about waiting times and having to wait a long time to get seen etc…
But the bottom line is if you are in A&E and you are unwell enough or injured enough that you do need to seek urgent medical attention you will get seen and treated on that day completely free of charge in a clean and sterile environment by some of the best healthcare professionals in the world.
So I find it utterly absurd when people whine about having to wait x number of hours and then getting typically British naggy about having to wait and then going home – with an ailment so they still have to wait longer in discomfort and then get a doctor’s appointment.
You take many less developed countries they don’t even have access to the medical facilities we do – they’d be falling over if they heard Brits were cross about having to wait 5+ hours to see a free doctor – when they themselves would either have to pay thousands of pounds to even be seen or end up queuing or travelling for days to the nearest free hospital where they don’t have the cleanliness, staff or medical equipment and people are dying.
Even in America millions of people can’t afford to seek treatment – they’d feel like they’d been handed a golden ticket if they knew they just had to wait for several hours to get treated for free. People are willing to queue up for several hours for a 3 minute ride at Alton Towers or to get to the front of a concert but not sit in a waiting room to get themselves out of pain and discomfort.
People need to stop being so arrogant and ungrateful about the NHS because it’s an absolute gift and one of the greatest things about this country. What’s a few hours to wait of your life if it means in some cases where people go home and make the wrong decision and ending up dying – meaning they have no hours of life to live. Ludicrous.
On top of that the reason people who aren’t having a heart attack or have critical injuries – they are waiting for very important reasons – in that time actual lives are being saved. Surely you’d want to wait a few extra hours knowing in doing so other people got to live.
I’m pretty confident that no-one is going to lose any sleep over the loss of Homebase from a consumer POV – there’s a B&Q at spitting distance from it, Wickes other side of town, Colour Supplies and probably a number of other local hardware/DIY stores people could go to if they wanted to.
Don’t get me wrong it’s a crap time for the staff losing their jobs smack right before Christmas – seems to be a lot of job losses lately.
Maureen will be shocked to hear this from me but is the funniest thing in this thread.
What Zinger said.
Actually agree with you for the most part X – I don’t agree with trick or treating at all – if someone came to your house any other time of the year begging and then threatening negative anti-social actions late at night the police would be right round (if there are any police left that is).
The actual getting dressed up I think is fun for the kids and they should just throw local community Halloween parties/discos (we used to have one in school) to keep the kids there get them tanked up on sweets etc… where perhaps instead those who are willing to give out sweets on the doorstep – could perhaps bring them to the local community centre/school. That way keep them out of trouble and keep everyone safe. Something that would increase community spirit rather than decrease it.
Teenagers going round with eggs and expecting sweets need to bloody grow up. I remember the local shop I worked in as a lad – my boss had to ban egg sales to kids for the whole week leading up to Halloween (we’re just baking a cake – yeah right!).
Although the full on Americanisation has massively turned Halloween into a profit making engine – you have it shoved down your throat aggressively by all the shops and confectionery companies – trying to make it something as big as Easter perhaps. Somewhat amusingly – in Tesco Cefn today they were clearing the shelves of Halloween stock already at lunchtime to make way for their full on Christmas selection.
Americans might overdo everything commercially, but they also do law enforcement like no other either:
Trick or treaters in certain Virginia towns who are over the age of 12 (or anyone trick or treating after 8pm) can expect jail time or a fine if caught. Parents supervising children going door to door are also banned from wearing masks.
Once Halloween is out of the way we can all sit happily waiting for the next major American import – Black Friday on 23rd November.
Actual serious reply to Watcher as you managed to make a thought out reply to my flippant comments.
My thoughts are that it would be an interesting turn of events for the influx to workers to come into the likes of Wrexham and North East Wales from England when notoriously Wrexham has been considered a commuter town for some years with people seeking work across the border in Chester, Liverpool, Manchester etc… but taking advantage of lower house prices and cost of living here.
Perhaps if there is the right skill mix of jobs and competitive salaries offered then some of these outbound Wrexham commuters might decide to apply for jobs closer to home. We are currently lacking things like a decent tech cluster so anyone with any serious IT and creative skills has to travel farther afield than Wrexham for work. If these types of business set-up in the area it would generate a lot of economic stimulus. Or in general any of the STEM skills that are crucial for the new and evolving workplace.
It would be beneficial to the area as a whole if the market became that competitive that more English people wanted to come and work here as well – it would help stop the brain drain. It would also show up companies like Refinitiv who made a fatal error in wanting to pull out of their industrial estate location.
Of course if we’re expecting an net influx of additional commuter workers then someone seriously needs to pull their finger out and deal with the road and rail transport infrastructure sooner rather than later – otherwise it’s going to be chaotic.
Also goes without saying that if more people choose to locate to Wrexham for the lower housing prices for their jobs then a lot of house building is going to need to take place as there’s still a critical shortage of affordable family homes to buy or rent even just with local competition to think of.
The other important side would obviously be including lots of entry level career starter roles in any jobs packages released to ensure that young people in Wrexham of any skill level leaving education will not risk being part of a new lost generation who feel like they are on a jobs scrap heap and are left on benefits for life.
So you basically need apprenticeship schemes at firms ready for those wanting to leave school at 16, connections for those at Cambria looking to start work at 18 and then you’d expect the graduate jobs market to develop organically with any new jobs created in defined skilled areas for those leaving Glyndwr or perhaps even attracting those who have attended other universities across the UK to actually seek work back home rather than go hunting for it elsewhere in big cities etc…
These are all ideals of course, what actually gets implemented in practice will be somewhere between less than perfect and downright shambolic – usually the case. Let’s just hope it goes well.
Marvin – Make North Wales Great Again! It was my understanding the bridge was closed to vehicle traffic and restricted access to pedestrians and cyclists for months but they got it fixed ahead of schedule in time for the influx. THE WALL WILL BRING JOBS TO WELSH QUARRY WORKERS.
X – yes, it’s a red cap for me all the way. I’ll refrain from threatening any caravans (migrant or holiday homes) for the time being. I’m looking to do more, do you know if Top Management has any tips?
Coming over here taking our jobs! I’ve heard there’s a migrant caravan already heading from Tattenhall seeking to cross over into Wales across Farndon bridge.
When budgetary constraints are dealt with on a few years basis and elections are every 5 years. It is always in the interests of the current ruling executive to go for the cheapest option available and in this case the 10 year rather than 20 years. It’s incredibly short sighted and bad management, but when the roads start breaking down and need to be replaced in 10 years the ruling executive will point to the previous regime as being at fault for failing to spend sufficient money and causing greater costs down the line. To no accountability whatsoever – once you are out of office, nothing can be pinned on you. Likewise, blame will also be pointed to austerity and the WAG and the Westminster Government for going the cheap route.
When in Austerity and cuts mode – there is no political upside for them to future proof our roads or go above and beyond what is necessary.
They already aren’t doing enough as the roads haven’t been fully fixed since last winter – as the massive pothole in the Tesco roundabout continuously reminds me.
X I’ve no interest in being baited across multiple threads just because you have a personal issue with me. It’s incredibly childish and arguing ruins the flow of the discussion forum for everyone else. The fact is I’ve not even posted in this thread so I’m baffled as to why you even need to bring me into it.
Rob, as this post is completely off topic you can remove it if you wish, but I will not tolerate jumped up anonymous troll bullies online.
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