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I would largely agree with a lot of the comments on here.However the role of the individual Councillor has been reduced to virtually a mere interested onlooker since the Councils adopted the so called “Cabinet” system.The said “Cabinets” are little more than an elective dictatorship.
I think well overdue that we bring back the Committee system back to Councils.It would also bring back a little power and thus motivation to the individual Councillor.
@justjojo2011 17076 wrote:
That’s quite a judgemental, assuming and racist statement you made there. Do you know for a fact that every Polish person in Wrexham hasn’t paid into the system? Do you know how long some Polish nationals have lived, worked and contributed in Wrexham, and the UK as a whole? What about the other nationalities in Wrexham? Why pinpoint Polish people specifically.
No, you should not be selective. Everyone is entitled to medical treatment, regardless of their condition. Some conditions and illnesses are self inflicted, this is true and some are not. But would you really tell a cancer patient they can’t have treatment because their condition was caused by them smoking? Or would you tell a mother that her child can’t have treatment because they fell? The system is there for everyone that lives in the UK.
And in terms of the queues at A&E, perhaps if people didn’t clog up the waiting room with their coughs and their colds, there would be plenty of space for the genuine cases to be seen.
I well endorse what you have said.Many Polish people in Wrexham originate from the Penley Polish Hospital in Penley.People who are were the very salt of the earth.Let those who have their own agendas criticise the origins of people.Health treatment should be on the basis of need and for all.
@Alunh 17025 wrote:
Personally, I don’t think that the NHS ought to be stumping up for drink and drug fuelled excess (and the aftermath) when Cancer patients are not allowed key drugs,
I’m sorry even in the comparative context of Cancer care,you can’t pick and choose which patients are treated freely.These people will have paid in like all others with their taxes,whether if working through PAYE and also of course if they are not through VAT.
Whilst of course there may be a need for a debate on the issues of Alcohol consumption or Drug abuse,this is definitely not the way to end these excesses nor do I believe they would have the necessary effect!
@johnhoppy 16931 wrote:
Where does it end. What about the people who fall of bikes, have heart attacks whilst jogging, break a limb whilst climbing mountains. All these activities could be considered to be self inflicted. Why pick on only one section of society.
Of course money may be tight which often calls for tough choices.Though treatment has to be for all.In any event you’ll find everyone’s paid in!
@Metalhead 16851 wrote:
Was this clip the rather strange arrest of the camps ‘legal observer’ who I believe then wasn’t actually charged with any offence?
Surely if he broke any criminal law he should have been charged for the crime he was deemed to have committed?, if not then he shouldn’t have been arrested at all. Certain bailiff’s seemed a tad heavy handed with him to me, why weren’t they also arrested or are they permitted to get a bit hands on if they deem that to be necessary?
BTW there is another clip of this event (and other stages of the eviction) still up on YT.
Any links?I ask as a Grandaughter of one of the miners entombed at Gresford posted the link of which I spoke.
@Rob 16847 wrote:
What was the video?
It was of the removal of the Camp by Bailiffs with the aid of Police.
@Rob 16845 wrote:
Saying “This video has been removed by the user.” to me
That isnt the usual copyright / breach of T&C’s / abuse notice etc so would imagine whoever put it up has taken it down for whatever reason?
Just as long as there is nothing more sinister at play here?
Does anyone know anything about the removal of a video on the removal of the Camp at Borras?
@The Monitor 16810 wrote:
Don’t challenge me … I believe we are on the same page. Whilst the betrayal of the democratic process we have witnessed in Wrexham is bad, it would only worsen by reducing the number of councils and creating bigger monoliths of centralised power. Large organisations diminish and marginalise the individual reducing the organisation’s accountability to the people.
Well before we start to consider any merger or not,we must return to the position of the power and influence of the individual local ward councillor that existed before the current system of “Executive Cabinet” was introduced.
After watching the Webcasts of recent “Executive Board” meetings the individual Councillor’s role has been reduced to that of a mere bystander.We also had the permitted personal attack by a member of the EB on an individual Councillor that was not only allowed by the EB’s chair but he refused to allow the individual Councillor any comeback.
Yes before we even consider any position on any proposed merger,these are the issues of democratic deficit that have to be faced up to first.
