10 Labour group members walk away

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  • #69153

    johnhoppy
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    “We are told that next week’s Executive Board meeting has been cancelled. However speculation on new dates remains just that.”

    Does this mean that local democracy is suspended? Mr Putin could take lessons from this lot!!

    #69139

    wrexview
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    Any new appointments have to be ratified by the Full Council with the Mayor having the casting vote of required. One item that would have been decided in the September Executive Meeting is whether the Council are prepared to give the Splash group the £50,000 for two years. If they decide against this then according to the webcast of the last meeting the diggers move in to start demolition! The cost of demolition costs we were told are in the region of £250,000 so on paper at least it looks like a saving of £150,000 if Splash is successful in running Plas Madoc. Due diligence was to take place on the Splash business plan in time for this meeting. Perhaps the Council will give an assurance that the Plas Madoc buildings will be kept in ” mothball” condition until this debacle is sorted out. Is there a process that gives the Full Council powers to act on making this decision ?

    #69184

    99DylanJones
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    The Welsh Government have now been handed on a plate a golden opportunity to look at the proposed merger recommendation in the Williams Commission on Local Government which suggested Wrexham and Flintshire should amalgamate. This in no way means that everything is all well in Flintshire but it would at least give the opportunity for a fresh start , reduce the personality struggles that clearly will exist in Wrexham regardless of who aligns with who.
    As stated previously all Councilors are elected to oversee the delivery of services based on their manifestos — any changes of this mandate for what ever reason is completely unacceptable.

    #69206

    The Monitor
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    There should be NO politics involved at Local Government level. Councillors should represent, ie. speak for, their respective electorate. Transmitting the views of their electorate for discussion and informing others of the council. Decisions can then be made based not on the political bent of a few men/women, but based upon the views of the many comprising the electorate.

    Being a Councillor should be a badge of merit, not requiring the payment of substantial expenses.

    The Plas Madoc Leisure Centre decision and the basis for the present state of affairs requires more explanation and a release to the public of real figures of monetary expenses not rounded up totals. What was the total cost of the “Consultants”? Was there any hidden agendum? How much were councillors (or the elite executive board) influenced by the EMPLOYED officials? If Plas Madoc Leisure Centre is allowed to die then every one of the existing councillors should stand for re-election immediately. No waiting for the next scheduled Local elections.

    #69154

    johnhoppy
    Participant

    “There should be NO politics involved at Local Government level. Councillors should represent, ie. speak for, their respective electorate. Transmitting the views of their electorate for discussion and informing others of the council. Decisions can then be made based not on the political bent of a few men/women, but based upon the views of the many comprising the electorate.

    Being a Councillor should be a badge of merit, not requiring the payment of substantial expenses.”

    I agree entirely. Council policy should not be influenced by political masters or their manifesto written according to some political doctrine. The needs of the local community should be paramount in their decision making.

    I suppose the decision to cancel the next Executive Board meeting it the right one as it would only have degenerated into a slanging match, but it does seem ridiculous that the decision making process of the council is paralysed as a result of this fiasco.

    #69185

    99DylanJones
    Participant

    The web cast seems to refer to two items for Plas Madoc — 1. was whether the Council would grant a lease after the SPLASH group had submitted a Business Plan for a due diligence assessment and 2. Whether the Council would give the £50k
    This implies the lease is the key element rather than the money without the lease in place the request for funding is immaterial.
    It still seems illogical that the ten have walked due to outside influence. The membership of the Labour Group on the Council is made up purely of Councilors so how could there be outside influence. It looks more like a potential vote of no confidence in the Leader which instead of accepting as an individual became a group of 10 decision to go.

    #69127

    Liam
    Participant

    Outside interference is alleged to have come from party liaison officers, who are involved in group meetings and supposedly influencing decisions. Labour in Wrexham is not autonomous from Labour in Cardiff/Westminster.

    #69140

    wrexview
    Participant

    So reading the statement by the Chief Executive it would appear that members of Executive Board remain in place until the next Full Council Meeting , so the question still remains , why has next week’s Executive Board Meeting been cancelled and who is responsible for making that decision? Does the situation remain that Councillor Neil Rogers has resigned from the Labour Party but not as Leader of Wrexham Council?

    #69155

    johnhoppy
    Participant

    @Liam 14929 wrote:

    Outside interference is alleged to have come from party liaison officers, who are involved in group meetings and supposedly influencing decisions. Labour in Wrexham is not autonomous from Labour in Cardiff/Westminster.

    If this is the case it is little wonder why people do no bother to vote. If decisions are made in darkened rooms by politicos with no interest or care for the local electorate, it makes a mockery of democracy.

    #69186

    99DylanJones
    Participant

    It is definitely a Party Political resignation not a resignation of the role. The cancelling of the meeting now means that the Public will have time to submit questions to the next Executive meeting about all the turmoil.
    It will however be an absolute disgrace if this is a deliberate action by the Leader and the ‘fallen 9’ to push an Executive meeting till after the deadline of 1st October for the SPLASH proposals to be voted on before the bulldozers move in.
    The Chief Executive in her announcement of work as normal has given the green light for her officers to arrange the demolition as agreed at a previous Executive for 1st October.

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