al simm
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and of course then there is the added problem with labour that many members in the PLP see brexit as an opportunity to get rid of corbyn.It seems that every other day Watson or Thornberry contradict corbyn over europe.There is no doubt in my mind that Corbyns biggest problem (apart from the media)are his own MP’s,the vast majority of which are tories.It’s a peculiar situation we have here where traditional labour supporters favour corbyn,the labour party rank and file favour corbyn,but the majority of MP’s want him out. I reckon it’s simple,if you are an MP and you prefer a neo-liberal agenda to a socialist one,then join the tories,farage or the libdems and let somebody else take your place.
Hi Matt,
Wrexham has become a marginalised seat and it was very definately the corbyn effect that got Ian lucas back into office in the last election,otherwise it would for the first time in it’s history gone over to the tories.
I personally think labour would landslide,especially if we get an election this year.And dont the tories know that!!so unless we see even greater deterioration within the tory ranks,I cant see an election being called before 2022,once brexit is out the way the tories will put up their traditional united front…pity labour couldn’t do that now.Hi MP1953,
Interesting points made but anyone who has voted labour since 1997(new labour) where actually voting for a far right tory party,which is basically what the new labour experiment was.Blair extended all of the thatcherite policies ad infinitum.Hi MP1953,
I agree that 80% of the PLP are anti corbyn(and it appears after a bit of research that all of our local representatives are) but the rank and file and the country in general support him and his policies.It’s a question of addressing the importnat issues,and the next election will pivot on the preservation of the NHS and the public sector two things Boris Johnson wants to get rid of.“Oh and the constant reference to appealing to the working classes is nothing but an illusory control tool used by the media to try and get everyone to fall into line. The very idea that in 2019 that there’s a block of people all of ‘working class’ stock who all think identically is absurd.”
Hi matt,I have to disagree on that. There certainly is a massive working class out there.They may not be all of the one mindset but they are certainly working class and they make up the vast majority of the population,the media trick has been to get these people to vote tory,and it has been very successful for decades.The reality is of course since the birth of new labour the working classes have not had an ally within the labour party.Corbyn is going part way to solving that problem,but the reality is the majority of his own MP’s and AM’s are busily plotting his downfall and replacing him with a bland tory lite like Starmer or Thornberry.
I agree the brexit issue has become blown out of all proportion.The next election will be fought not on brexit,but the NHS and thats where labour should win hands down.Hi imho
No, I am 100% brexit,but I do feel sad that farage has somehow come to be the figurehead of the leave group.I certainly wouldn’t call his supporters mug punters(i said that because his style is that of a second hand car saleman)I think everyone is totally dissilsuioned with politics.But I will admit that the combo of farage on the far right and corbyn on the far left are certainly shaking up the traditional blandness of british politics.Farage is lucky,the members of his party back him 100%,unlike corbyn who,whilst he has phenomenal support from the labour members(and the country in general) but little support from the majority of labour MPs and AMs and the media(right across the board.
What would happen if we had a general election.??The tories will do everything in their power NOT to have an election,they know they will lose.If though one is called this year I think the brexit party would be beaten into third or 4th place,labour would win by a landslide because a GE would not be about brexit,it would be about the NHS and saving it from the privateers.hi imho
farage is trying to appeal to working class people,but I haven’t seen his list of candidates for any parliamentary elections.The MEP candidates read like a gallery of ghouls with the likes of Annunziata Rees-Mogg(whose never done a days work in her life) and anne widicombe.
Farage is just a tory,and rather than being the new force in british politics he claims to be,in reality he is very old establishment hat and should really be selling second hand cars to mug punters.I cant understand why people protest so much about this,I for one wont rest until we have at least two supermarkets for every member of the population.There are around 80 million people living in the UK,that means about 160 million supermarkets.It would be wonderful.
people are always moaning,look here it’s worth the sacrifice of disruption if it means we will have a brand spanking new food palace,petrol outlet and a much needed drive through costa coffee,plus 360 houses.All we had before the development was a couple of ugly fields full of trees,hedges, a pond, wildife(from spiders to foxes) and noisy birds twittering all day.We dont need the countryside it stinks and is full of open spaces.
