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April 6, 2013 at 9:15 am #59768
wxmParticipantEntirely understand what you’re saying. The answer to the problem is in the point that you make.
At the heart of Wrexham is how the Council spends £430m plus each year on behalf of its citizens. Social and economic opportunities and performance are now measured on a global scale, and Wrexham must measure itself on how it performs compared to other communities. Industry such as Sharp, Tetra Pak, JCB, those near such as Toyota and Airbus, will choose where they stay, go or grow, based on the competitive environment we give them. Such as small businesses feeding the supply chain, appropriately and well educated and skilled people, a healthy environment to live with good hospitals and support structures, roads, rail and transport that allow us to get around.
Someone has to lead, as Juliano did in New York. Yes, the Health Service and Assembly are party to this, but someone must say this is what we need to do, and this is what we need to build. Whether people choose to sign the petition or not, it is a fair and honest representation made.
It is interesting how this debate has continued under the heading of Grove Park School. Probably historically where the talent of old Wrexham was nurtured. Education by definition: a change in knowledge or behavior.
April 6, 2013 at 10:32 am #59699
wrexviewParticipantThe people of Wrexham need to believe in themselves more and create an ethos of aspiration. Negativity is very destructive and spreads an air of gloom. The same happens in schools ” we are not very good” so why bother, the downward spiral starts and is difficult to stop / change. Attitude is all important, much can be achieved with a positive attitude and a bit of effort. It is our town and it is up to all of us to make it a good place to live, work and relax in.
April 6, 2013 at 12:06 pm #59724
zingerParticipantAllelujah!! Exactly – the feel good factor. Beyond price & should be bottled. If Wrexham does a good job on anything, praise it to the High Heavens. Don’t knock it & bemoan the cost. Does not mean that you have to waste money, just spend it wisely & if in the process you can make someone happy, then well done. From little acorns & all that.
April 6, 2013 at 10:27 pm #59737
AlunhParticipant@wrexview 5457 wrote:
The people of Wrexham need to believe in themselves more and create an ethos of aspiration. Negativity is very destructive and spreads an air of gloom. The same happens in schools ” we are not very good” so why bother, the downward spiral starts and is difficult to stop / change. Attitude is all important, much can be achieved with a positive attitude and a bit of effort. It is our town and it is up to all of us to make it a good place to live, work and relax in.
Quite agree……except for the fact that when it comes to key decision making it often isn’t. The approach to schools is dictated from Cardiff and we in Wrexham have to follow the Labour led lead that is provided. When the Council actually considered a differentiated approach to the Superschools they were refused permission to even consider
April 7, 2013 at 12:14 am #59711
thewayneinspainParticipantAlunh;5478 wrote:Quite agree……except for the fact that when it comes to key decision making it often isn’t. The approach to schools is dictated from Cardiff and we in Wrexham have to follow the Labour led lead that is provided. When the Council actually considered a differentiated approach to the Superschools they were refused permission to even considerbut is this actually true?
The default setting always for the council whenever there is opposition to a decision it makes is pass the buck to the welsh assembly. Because it happens so often, unless the council presents actual documents I don’t believe them anymore.
With the leader of the wrexham education committee being labour (michael williams) and WAG being labour also, it serves the selfish political ambitions of both to say WAG rules we have no choice to go along with it rather than put up a fight. One example is councillor pay and expenses. I note not one councillor has given thier increase to charity.
April 7, 2013 at 6:05 am #59769
wxmParticipantFascinating. You can only follow one path, and only have one person or body leading the way. Wrexham Council should either divest itself of responsibility for education and then put the Assembly in monthly monitoring, or obtain authority from the Assembly to take sole responsibility, and if the Butler Act is a consideration, it should debate that and other models within the first month, and tell the community what they’re doing and why.
April 7, 2013 at 11:12 am #59700
wrexviewParticipant“When the Council actually considered a differentiated approach to the Superschools they were refused permission to even consider”
What was the ” differentiated approach” ? Do you mean setting of pupils ?
April 7, 2013 at 12:31 pm #59712
thewayneinspainParticipantSetting masks the bigger problem. Not enough teacher interaction because there aren’t enough teachers.
April 7, 2013 at 12:34 pm #59738
AlunhParticipant@wrexview 5494 wrote:
“When the Council actually considered a differentiated approach to the Superschools they were refused permission to even consider”
What was the ” differentiated approach” ? Do you mean setting of pupils ?
Good question, and I am in truth, sketchy on detail here. If my memory serves me correctly, and I will gladly stand corrected, I think that the Council floated the idea of copying schools like that in Ellesmere. What happens across Shropshire and Cheshire is that schools, especially those of the Academy ilk, adopt an individual identity so that they might be geared towards Languages, IT, Sport, Music and so on. Each school follows the core curriculum but differentiates part of its offer from another school nearby. This allows choice and specialisation.
Such an approach could easily work well in a town of the size of Wrexham because it would allow parents to try and place their youngster where their aptitudes seemed to direct. Essentially, its a re-run of the Butler approach.
It was knocked back by the Welsh Assembly because they don’t like anything that strikes them as providing even the modicum of a ‘different’ education. Hence we have what David Blunkett called ‘Bog Standard One-Size Fits All Comprehensives’ in our town.
The ‘Setting’ question is a different (though vital) issue
April 28, 2013 at 9:11 am #59770
wxmParticipantSchooling, and how we support young people, constantly comes to the fore. It would be good to understand whether Ysgol Clywedog will ever be resolved, and how. It would also be good to understand how The Groves site can intellectually contribute to that solution, and how the use of that site or monies on sale, will be an investment for several generations to come in Wrexham.
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