September 15, 2020 at 6:11 pm #192960
Sarah Atherton votes to break international law.September 15, 2020 at 6:49 pm #192966
Or depending on your interpretation of it all,
Sarah Atherton votes for what’s best for the UKSeptember 15, 2020 at 7:15 pm #192968
She voted to break international law.
Brandon Lewis conceded this, it’s not about “interpretation.”September 15, 2020 at 7:36 pm #192970
See where you’re coming from Timmy lad,it’s not too dissimilar to the war in Iraq “interpretation”.September 15, 2020 at 7:36 pm #192971
I’m struggling to see what part of what’s best for the UK includes no trade deals with our 2 biggest trading partners of the EU and also the USA.
It has been stated that there will be no trade deal with the US if the Good Friday Agreement is broken.
Of course none of this will matter to many who believe that drunkenly shouting but not knowing the words to Rule Britannia whilst waving around a union jack tattooed penis will cause all foreigners to bow weak at the knees to the British Empire and give in to our demands.September 15, 2020 at 7:40 pm #192972
Billy, everyone knows that Tony Blair should have been tried as a war criminal. Half of us were protesting the Iraq War.
The same people patriotically cheerleading doing what’s right for the UK now were the same people cheerleading patriotically for the invasion of Iraq, so go figure.September 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm #192974
With you on that Matt,but i do think that Barnier is doing a deal for the French,and not so much for the E.U.September 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm #192975
Tim is 100% correct Ms Atherton has voted to break international law. The issue of whether it is right for the country or not is separate.
If Britain can break International law what is wrong with certain countries developing nuclear weapons.
Once you accept one country can break the law who then determines which other laws can be broken ‘acceptably’. Who/where will this be determined?September 15, 2020 at 7:57 pm #192976
I want Blair in front of the Hague on war crime charges.
He knew very well indeed that he needed a second UN resolution for permission to invade Iraq – why else would he have made herculean efforts to get one? – and yet, having failed in that, he went ahead with his illegal invasion.
Billy, ‘tu quoque’ arguments seem very persuasive, but they’re a mistake in logic. We now have two examples of law-breaking. There are no exceptions to the ‘rule of law.’September 15, 2020 at 8:27 pm #192977
The UK is rapidly becoming a failed state and it’s inevitable breakup will be the closing chapter of the once great British Empire. Just like the Roman and Ottoman Empires it will be resigned to the history books.
We can’t see it at the moment because we are currently part of unfolding historical events that have been rapidly accelerated by gross mismanagement of the Union. First perhaps in part to Labour’s grand neglect of Scotland but now the Tories 2 fingers to the Good Friday Agreement and unwilling withdrawal of Scotland from the EU.
It’s not a case of IF but WHEN Scotland will leave the UK with overwhelming numbers of young Scots wanting independence and Ireland will never accept a hard border between NI and ROI so it will be impossible for some part of the UK to be outside the EU from a customs perspective unless Ireland reunifies and leaves the UK.
Back to current events – When Boris Johnson said he had an oven ready deal for Brexit he was lying repeatedly to get elected. As it has now been revealed he didn’t. If he’d have been honest we’d still probably be in the political deadlock we were in 12 months ago, but why should any of us care because politicians always lie and just do what they want anyway and go back on election promises.
It is unlikely that the EU will allow the UK to leave with no deal as it is impractical for all concerned so this has just created more delay and uncertainty and is likely to keep this Brexit limbo saga ongoing for years and years to come.
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