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September 15, 2013 at 1:29 pm #64513
thewayneinspainParticipantforgot to add, wrexham fc only has one revenue sector because that was only revenue stream moss & roberts et al didn’t want.
September 15, 2013 at 1:58 pm #64530
Welsh DresserParticipantSo even if the big draw bands were to agree to use the stadium the only people to profit would be Glyndwr University? The football club would not see a penny of any profit?
It seems to be a matter of discussion for the university and the council then.
September 15, 2013 at 3:04 pm #64514
thewayneinspainParticipant@Welsh Dresser 9160 wrote:
So even if the big draw bands were to agree to use the stadium the only people to profit would be Glyndwr University? The football club would not see a penny of any profit?
Yes.
The club has been well and truly mined for every piece of plunder.
September 15, 2013 at 4:58 pm #64531
Welsh DresserParticipantDo you think the club is sustainable as a fan based club or is it’s fate to stay in the lower echelons of football. My Dad’s attitude is that he supports the club no matter what league they are in.
September 15, 2013 at 6:50 pm #64522
AlunhParticipant@thewayneinspain 9157 wrote:
Alun,
Last seasons turnover was 2.2 million, next year’s turnover is forecast at 1.6 million (no cup runs or plays off included.) Matchday reciepts were 988k. Think at the last AGM it was stated Wrexham FC got around 10.09 per ticket per game.
The club doesn’t own the football ground. It will make no money from a gig of 10,000 people. It had been ripped from the club’s hands. it has gone. The only people who wanted to invest in the club or ground wanted the land for their profit. Only the fans themselves wanted the club, Moss sold the ground to the highest bidder.
But looking in terms of finances, it would cost a conservative minimum of 12.5 million to get a site . 2.5 for the land (assuming the club can get somewhere in wrexham for same price glyndwr got the raceocurse), 10 million for the stadia. That’s over 300k depreciation (over 25 years), never mind the upkeep (think the current ground is hinted at 200k a year.)
Could a new stadia get enough bands and attendees to get past the extra break even point of 300k a year for the next 25 years? No.
The town centre manager is doing what everyone has always done with the racceourse, promise something big, but it never turns up.
I think that I am now in 100% agreement with you here. Like many, I realised that as soon as the University acquired the ground and Wrexham became a club with no hard assets, then the main thing for the future would be survival. Going back to the original ask (about the state of the club), I suspect that all involved have to be complimented on keeping it afloat. It is now difficult to envisage a future built on investment and on-field success and if that happens, those involved should take a bow and get Freedom of the Borough for their achievement.
I really hope that fans will not get on the back of those who have stepped up to the plate now and who are trying to keep football in the town
September 15, 2013 at 7:20 pm #64515
thewayneinspainParticipant@Welsh Dresser 9167 wrote:
Do you think the club is sustainable as a fan based club or is it’s fate to stay in the lower echelons of football. My Dad’s attitude is that he supports the club no matter what league they are in.
Is it sustainable? Good question. It will be, but it’s still a large tanker changing direction and that is going to taken longer to fix than anyone imagined.
September 15, 2013 at 7:53 pm #64532
Welsh DresserParticipantI have joined the Trust. I know it’s a drop in the ocean but will keep it up as long as is necessary.
September 15, 2013 at 9:54 pm #64517
zingerParticipantWhat is needed is supporters to continue to support the club through the low spots as well as high. You may be angry & call them fit to burn when they play badly & swear that you will never watch that rubbish again but don’t you just know that the true supporters will be back again the next week & the next & the next in the wind, rain & snow.
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