Ty Pawb – Very disappointed :-(

Home Forums Wrexham.com Forums Wrexham Forum Ty Pawb – Very disappointed :-(

  • Author
    Posts
  • #155232

    CarolThomas
    Participant

    Council Watcher many thanks for your very comprehensive list of things to look out for – I will make sure that my daughter who has an interest in one of the stalls see the article- hope the other stall holders are aware.
    In view of one of the main ‘attractions’ ie the gallery now not being in use for a period of time I assume the stall holders should get some compensation (from the rent not yet paid) to refelect yet another negative that will affact the reduced footfall.

    Rob does this reflect what you are picking up with your ear to the ground!

    #155272
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    Rob does this reflect what you are picking up with your ear to the ground!

    I did pop in to eat, have a cuppa and do some voluntary work – however rather than having my ear to the ground I got it bent regarding the recent three stories on rent/contracts/gallery closure :)

    In the conversation the topic of contracts/agreements was mentioned, so I asked a nearby trader if they had been given one or not – and was told no.

    One thing that has been passed over this evening is this public Facebook post from Just Desserts (try them if you have not!) that is doing an informal canvas on how much business was lost due to their then unfinished unit for opening day – as they have been asked for figures.

    Calling all our lovely customers! We've been asked to estimate how much business we lost by Not being able to open due…

    Posted by Just desserts and milkshakes wrexham on Thursday, 30 August 2018

    The BBC were floating around today as well, but I have not seen the report and just looking online can’t find it. The BBC site does suggest news “From other local news sites” in North East Wales, and links to the Daily Post’s “Sex, cake and mirrors on the ceiling: Loose Women’s most outrageous moments” so will have a nose at that instead.

    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #155300

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    Has any of the office space been rented/licensed to any external organstions yet? Are they subject to the same dealy in collecting rents?

    #155331
    Sheefag
    Sheefag
    Participant
    #155332

    wrexview
    Participant

    “But what can already be said is that the place feels right for its aspirations. It is welcoming, animated, open, unpretentious and multifarious, while also calm and dignified. If this can’t bring art and everyday life together, I don’t know what will.”

    Guardian’s view of Ty Pawb

    #155333

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    It should be noted that this ‘positive’ review has been written purely from an architectural perspective for the Guardian – it would be interesting to see if the Guardian sent an arts or business reporter to visit what their take on Ty Pawb would be.
    The success of any arts building is not what it looks like but what is actually going on with displays and activities, none of which are covered in the article. There are very few galleries that can claim people are visiting to see the architectural features.

    #155334
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    https://www.ribaj.com/buildings/buildings-gallery-market-community-space-baggy-arte-util-ty-pawb-wrexham-featherstone-young

    Another recent review using similar image sets and phrases etc.

    Someone did mention they had heard the architect had arranged some national PR so perhaps this is outcome? No idea if that is the case or this is something else or entirely organic.

    I am sure the more informed readers can provide the detail if they want to post up.

    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #155336

    Liam
    Participant

    If it looks like PR, reads like PR, and simpers like PR, then it probably is PR.

    #155339

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    The total lack of any financial cost information is a clear giveaway that this is an Architects PR story only. Design and build is all they are interested in, not the actual activity that takes place.

    #155340

    Matt
    Participant

    Needs a translation:

    A covered market in Wrexham has welcomed a new exhibition and performance space in an understated revamp that unites art and commerce

    Someone didn’t know what to do with the failing market & rarely visited local art gallery so they decided to hoodwink Welsh Grant providers into investing millions into a mashed up building to create a failing art space slash market all in one place.

    a turreted, brick-faced example of late-flowering postmodernism, with mannered, semi-circular windows. What tells you that something has changed is paint, in broad diagonal slashes of black, with white lettering announcing what the building now is.

    The original building was a piss poor design & they’ve tried to fool the locals with a bit of black paint That looks unfinished as they ran out of that shade in Colour Supplies. They also stuck a massive logo on it because they were worried locals would just ignore & assume it’s still closed down otherwise.

    Inside is the original concrete structure, handsome in its functional way, cleaned of clutter and made more visible than before.

    Looks like the contractor went bust or fled the country before reaching even half completion of the job.

    It has also required judicious management of a small budget, £4.3m for the construction cost. Signs and graphics, by the Cardiff-based branding firm Elfen, are an important part of the experience.

    They’ve had the financing of a peasant’s mud hut compared to the London Jaunts I love reviewing.

    (and I’m that posh I’ve totally failed to realise how overpriced & grotesque this project was in terms of local funding).

    I consider Wrexham to be so backwards that I am mildly relieved that the only place Me or my Friends really care about – Cardiff were able to intervene to bring some culture to the place.

    (again completely failing to recognise, how alienated everyone is that North Wales expertise wasn’t even considered).

Content is user generated and is not moderated before posting. All content is viewed and used by you at your own risk and Wrexham.com does not warrant the accuracy or reliability of any of the information displayed. The views expressed on these Forums and social media are those of the individual contributors.
Complaint? Please use the report post tools or contact Wrexham.com .

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.