Quiet month on wrexham.com forum?

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  • #64823

    Haven’t posted since Wrexham.com not giving right of reply to a councillor and then trying to slur the same councillor in another forum thread by again not giving him right of reply.

    I find that to be the lowest act by a wrexham media outlet for 4 years, so i doubt i will post very often until the journalism standards return to what they once were.

    re: stats of website

    Rob has said previously he has google analytics, they are working today.

    but remember with google traffic stats you need to take out visits from the spammers and robots… that’s very easy to do and could be very easily published on here at any time. takes me just a minute to create a png to do that. I have settings on google analytics that emails me the results of the week every monday morning.

    incidently alexa.com is stating that wrexham.com has dropped over 147,000 places in the league of the most popular websites in the world over the last few weeks.

    toodle pips!

    correction it’s now a drop of 184,000 see http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wrexham.com

    #64818

    Rob
    Participant

    Other bits have been answered before so wont go round in circles… however:

    Quote:
    incidently alexa.com is stating that wrexham.com has dropped over 147,000 places in the league of the most popular websites in the world over the last few weeks.

    toodle pips!

    Google Analytics is directly measured, Alexa is not and is basically a guess and is entirely skewed by ‘toolbar’ installs.

    How did we achieve an Alexa rank of less than 100,000? | SiteRankHistory.com is worth a read , particularly the bits about user toolbars and widget installs.

    We could do those things but it would be entirely pointless to boost a worthless figure that no one really cares about nor attributes much weight as its too easy to game.

    I am unsure what stats package you would suggest, but I wouldnt use Alexa nor believe figures it quotes. Similarly I wouldnt believe Awstats and other server site packages for their own ‘quirks’.

    If you want I can set up a shell window with tail -f access_log and you can watch the traffic manually :D

    #64819

    Rob
    Participant

    @thewayneinspain 9488 wrote:

    correction it’s now a drop of 184,000 see Wrexham.com Site Info

    That is pretty ace if we are the 45,000th biggest site in the UK!

    Likewise if 10% find us via search, and with only 125 links in means …. thats a massive brand based type in traffic right there :D

    Sadly its all nonsense…. :(

    #64824

    @rob 9489 wrote:

    Other bits have been answered before so wont go round in circles…

    they haven’t been answered just a refusal to admit a drop of journalistic standards. I wouldlike to contribute to some of the other threads, but after you saying in this thread that the forum only accounts for 2% of the visits, i don’t see why anyone would when main articles show such deliberate bias and bullying against one politician/councillor.

    Alexa show one very good point those wrexham.com readers that have the alexa toolbar on their browser aren’t viewing the site as much as they did in August.

    If this wrong, why not put up a “PNG” of the google analytics snapshot that compares monthly visits of the last two months whilst giving a breakdown of which countries your visits come from?

    #64832

    zinger
    Participant

    I just thought that it was the lull before the storm.

    #64820

    Rob
    Participant

    @rob 9418 wrote:

    Interestingly looking at google analytics the forums are only 2% of the pageviews of the site – so tiny really.

    Looking further as this didnt feel right – this was on the overview page – which shows 2% is to the forums frontpages eg /forums/wrexham-surrounding-area-forum/

    Traffic to bits of the forums eg. *anything* on Wrexham.com/Forums/ and downwards is 13.68% of last 30 day traffic with people spending 00:03:44 (hrs/mins/secs) on average per page. So still 87% is non-forum reads which isnt great for the forum.

    Entrances is 2.20% of traffic which would matchish those looking direct to wrexham.com forums.

    Taking a year view the average for the forum is 14.75% so its abit under average in terms of reads, however 25th April was the largest readership day for the /forums/ section followed closely by 26th June

    #liesdamnliesandstatsetc

    Quite a few readers of the forums but not many seem to wish to engage.

    Anyone lurking who doesnt post – pop us an email (can be anon!) via Submit A Story | Wrexham.com to let us know why and how we can improve things to encourage you to join in…

    #64825

    but we don’t know how many of those visits are spammers.

    For instance there are over 9,000 members on this forum but probably no more than 2% have ever posted something other than spam.

    The easiest way to see how many visitors are spammers, search engine robots or content scrapers is see what % of visitors are from UK & EU v rest of world.

    It’s quite easy to find, all wrexham.com has to do is print a google analytics snapshot of wrexham.com

    Still doesn’t explain why wrexham.com has a need to bully and slur a councillor (who if some twitter commnetators have alluded to) has had health problems. Which is a great reason why to not post on this site as often as before.

    #64833

    zinger
    Participant

    To be fair, I can’t see Rob bullying or slurring anyone. You may not like the way he reported something but no one else seemed to think that it was a major issue if I remember rightly.

    #64831

    NJones
    Participant

    Wahey- theres life back in the forum!!

    #64826

    @zinger 9509 wrote:

    To be fair, I can’t see Rob bullying or slurring anyone. You may not like the way he reported something but no one else seemed to think that it was a major issue if I remember rightly.

    Background:

    • Rob chose to run a story from a press release from the council leader that accused a councillor of lack of attendance
    • the councillor was asking for more detailed figures in regards to council expenditure
    • the councillor was suggestiong to axe the mayor and spend that cash on services.
    • A leader reporter posted on here and twitter suggesting the councillor had a valid reason for not being at those meetings.
    • A leader reporter also posted that it common practice to give right of reply. (Even the daily mail did that with Milliband)
    • Other twitter posters alluded to him having health problems,

    The underlying issue is that a debate on cuts and more figures made public was deflected by the council leader by slurring the councillor. This would be fine if the councillor was fit and healthy. But rob never got right of reply.

    1. If rob had got right of reply from that councillor he would be able to verify if the councillor was ill, had health problems and why he wasn’t at the council meetings.
    2. Although there were a number of tweets to him explaining the situation, he did not, why? My only viewpoint is that he wanted to attack that councillor too.
    3. If the councillor was ill, we should be asking questions of the council leader’s scruples and is a man like that balanced enough to run the council.
    4. this issue i think is a huge one especially because the big debate is about cuts, but debate has been stifled by this press release.
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