Ty Pawb Market Stall Charges.
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January 22, 2018 at 9:22 pm #143628
jimbowParticipantCharges for market stalls in the new Ty Pawb I have been informed by the Council are, Rent £128m2 and Service Charges of £70m2 total £198m2.
The charges for the 2 recently refitted stalls at a cost to the Council of £20,000 which have still not been let in the Butchers Market are, Rent £160m2 and Service Charges of £84m2 total £244m2.
£46m2 less Rent and Service Charges in a new building costing £4.5 million.
Joe Public could be having to fund this project to the year dot.
January 23, 2018 at 2:08 am #143632
pierceParticipantCould that be explained on A WEEKLY BASIS.
January 23, 2018 at 10:01 am #143633
jimbowParticipant[quote quote=143632]Could that be explained on A WEEKLY BASIS.[/quote]
There will be 20 stalls in the Ty Pawb Market. 10 will be around 32m2 and 10 around 24m2.
The 32m2 will come in at £6,336 per annum and the 24m2 at around £4,752 per annum.
In weekly terms 32m2 = £121.84 and 24m2 = £91.38
On top of this each individual stall will be responsible for their own water, electric or gas where these apply.
January 23, 2018 at 10:04 am #143634
Councillor XParticipantMarket stalls ………….. Market fails!
January 23, 2018 at 10:21 am #143635
jimbowParticipantHave the lower stall rent and service charges in Ty Pawb over the Butchers Market been set on purpose that Ty Pawb has a good occupancy level?
If the 7 tenents who relocated from the Peoples Market to the Butchers Market, now return to Ty Pawb, it will leave the Butchers Market rather sparse.
What plans have the Council in place to ensure this does not happen?
What protection do the traders in the Butchers Market have?
January 23, 2018 at 10:22 pm #143674
AnonymousInactiveIt appears that Wrexham Council are the last in the country to recognise that Markets are finished. Markets used to offer good value for money – now we have other markets of which the traditional markets cannot compete. What markets ? Poundland, 99p shop, Pound World and Primark. £4.5 million wasted, a millstone around the neck of council tax payers for many years. We must vote the councillors out – the lot of them, they are all complicit in this costly, undemocratic shambles. It is pointless to say that we should boycott TyPawb, its uselessness and unpopularity will achieve this aim without any conscious decisions from the normal People. Prospective stall holders beware !
January 24, 2018 at 8:17 am #143692
Owain GlyndwrParticipant[quote quote=143674]It appears that Wrexham Council are the last in the country to recognise that Markets are finished. Markets used to offer good value for money – now we have other markets of which the traditional markets cannot compete. What markets ? Poundland, 99p shop, Pound World and Primark. £4.5 million wasted, a millstone around the neck of council tax payers for many years. We must vote the councillors out – the lot of them, they are all complicit in this costly, undemocratic shambles. It is pointless to say that we should boycott TyPawb, its uselessness and unpopularity will achieve this aim without any conscious decisions from the normal People. Prospective stall holders beware ![/quote]
The alternative is to close the market and have another art gallery there because everyone loves them!
January 25, 2018 at 9:54 pm #143774
jimbowParticipant[quote quote=143634]Market stalls ………….. Market fails![/quote]#
The original plan put forward by Quarterbridge was for the Peoples Market to become a cultural and arts based operation at a capital cost of £1.4m with no reference to market stalls.
Retain the Butchers Market and make capital investment of £890k
Refocus the General Market to provide restaurants and bars with a capital investment of £729k
Looking at what we could end up with, a less than full occupation of market stalls in both Ty Pawb and the Butchers Market.
No investment in either the Butchers or General Markets and a spend of £4.5m, a lot more than the £1.4m originally suggested by the Consultants. -
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