How Would You Think Different ? Council To Plug £30mil Hole

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    Alunh;7127 wrote:
    But for me both systems are still ‘old school’ because in my opinion both systems fail because classes are way too big and pupils aren’t getting enough attention to learn (and pass) effectively.

    I get this line Wayne but we have to build a system around the realities we face not some Utopian model that we are miles away from. Education budgets were not capable of delivering on your aspirations when times were good and Gordon Brown was doling out money like confetti.

    I’m quite similar to this position.

    Throwing money at something never fixes the problem. Labour spent money on procrastination with capital projects & PFIs within the education system rather than on what matters… the teachers and pupils.

    New Labour did it with everything.

    #57220
    Alunh
    Alunh
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    Agreed

    It seems we have some lines to work with here and I only wish the authority was as pragmatic. Education has to be something that educates and educates across the board trying to bring each individual to their own individual potential (equally). This is not delivering the same curriculum within the same lessons but tailoring the Education delivered to the needs and abilities of each child.

    Whilst this might suggest child centred tailored teaching, pace and tempo require Setting for group teaching scenarios

    #57135

    Rob
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    @metalhead 7121 wrote:

    Our daughter went to a secondary school in the Wrexham area for 11 weeks before we pulled her out and ended up transferring her to one in Cheshire where she has done fantastically well and is now looking to progress to university. Within those 11 weeks we saw our bright, intelligent child reduced to a flat wreck. Maybe some kids can just dig in and get on with it?, sadly she could not. School support was appalling and following a series of incidents we felt we were left with no other choice than to get her out of there. I’m not going to name this school as I believe things have improved since then but for our daughter pulling her out of there was the single best decision we ever made, which to this day we feel we shouldn’t have had to do.

    That is quite sad to read.

    Glad she is now happy and doing well though!! :)

    #57252

    wxm
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    People suffering is gross and unnecessary. This gives Wrexham every reason to face up to the facts, and act now. How many children who are not getting the right education now, will be DEPRIVED of their career from 16 years onwards!?!

    Education is obviously getting attention on a number of fronts!

    Wrexham needs to produce a proper Single Integrated Plan to cater for the different needs of people right across the community spectrum.

    This is not a difficult thing to do. This would put the total Council budget into context, and present proper choices about how to re-engineer the budget, and to ensure education, health, and other necessities are properly delivered.

    The plan should aspire to improve our economy through employers, and generate more jobs and money for the locality. Cuts is only one part of the debate.

    #57171
    wxm;7172 wrote:
    People suffering is gross and unnecessary. This gives Wrexham every reason to face up to the facts, and act now. How many children who are not getting the right education now, will be DEPRIVED of their career from 16 years onwards!?!

    Education is obviously getting attention on a number of fronts!

    Wrexham needs to produce a proper Single Integrated Plan to cater for the different needs of people right across the community spectrum.

    This is not a difficult thing to do. This would put the total Council budget into context, and present proper choices about how to re-engineer the budget, and to ensure education, health, and other necessities are properly delivered.

    The plan should aspire to improve our economy through employers, and generate more jobs and money for the locality. Cuts is only one part of the debate.

    What are you doing to make that happen?

    #57253

    wxm
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    Spending valuable time writing on here. As more people contribute with rational scrutiny of the council and public services, the issues are being addressed, leading to structured debate, proposals, and change. In time, debate may well lead to people having the confidence to stand for office.

    #57232

    Welsh Dresser
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    @wxm 7202 wrote:

    Spending valuable time writing on here. As more people contribute with rational scrutiny of the council and public services, the issues are being addressed, leading to structured debate, proposals, and change. In time, debate may well lead to people having the confidence to stand for office.

    Great answer! :)

    #57172
    wxm;7202 wrote:
    Spending valuable time writing on here. As more people contribute with rational scrutiny of the council and public services, the issues are being addressed, leading to structured debate, proposals, and change. In time, debate may well lead to people having the confidence to stand for office.

    Fair do – top answer.

    #57254

    wxm
    Participant

    Still waiting to see if Page 8:

    http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/assets/pdfs/financial/statement_of_accs_1112.pdf

    entitled “Comprehensive Income and Expenditure Account Statement 2011/2” was the spend by Wrexham Council of £431m in that year.

    And how they propose to re-engineer the budget . . .

    #57255

    wxm
    Participant

    It’s interesting how a debate was held in this thread, and now we have a debate going on waiting for the 16 October.

    These are real issues that affect real people every day. While we have been having this debate openly, I am still very surprised that we are not seeing ONE “whole” plan for Wrexham for the future – which champions education and earnings, and demonstrates how innovations such as the prison, and challenges such as the town centre, will be a successful part of our future …

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