Matt
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It’s not good enough really is it? The Welsh Government have declared a climate emergency and seem to reduce emissions by ultimately reducing the number of polluting cars on the road. Yet they can’t put on a reliable enough train service that people could use as an alternative to cars to get to and from work or come and visit Wales as a tourist destination.
There’s really no joined up thinking going on.
Some very good points raised on here & in the interests of a fair & transparent University I hope they can shed light on the discrepancies identified & also their compliance with the Charity Commission for land disposal.
Fired off my initial warning shots to Clr Bithell as he was praising the litter collection in Penycae on Facebook. Will be interested to see if he responds.
David A Bithell yes John etc… work tirelessly to keep our village clean and tidy from litter. I just believe the area is at risk at being a whole lot worse and your area of Johnstown if the black bin delivery collections are changed to 3 weekly. I can take a picture of my black bin right now & show you how full it is leading up to the 2-weekly collection with everything pressed down as much as it can. Plus with a full compliment of sorted recycling into plastic & cans, food caddy, glass bottles, garden waste & card & paper. We are a family of 4 with 2 young girls & I have spoken to several other households in the local area with families & all of them are highly concerned about what is going to happen if bin collection gets reduced. Not everyone has cars to do skip runs & it will be the case that some people will end up fly tipping, putting pressure on the public bins or having rubbish piling up in the back garden. The summer months already mean maggots and flies build up in bins because of the fortnightly collection & then mice & rats gets attracted. I can’t even begin to imagine what will happen if things are left another week. I’m posting this on here as you are the Exec Lead for Environmental services David and also I want to bring the issue to your attention John C Phillips because as our councillor a number of us are highly concerned with the proposals and the effect it will have on the village. We are in workings to set-up a Wrexham wide campaign against these changes that will turn Wrexham streets into those similar to a 3rd world country. It is completely unacceptable with the ever increasing council tax rates that services are being cut to the bone in respect that a basic level of sanitation cannot be upheld and would be of great detriment to public health, in particular to children, the elderly and vulnerable. We will not be fobbed off by threat to climate nonsense excuse – as a real threat to local wildlife exists as litter ends up overflowing onto the streets and as we see in Penycae even into green areas and the river. It is also unacceptable to cite austerity and cuts because quite frankly we’re paying in for the running of this town & the wages of those who govern & operate the council. We should get a say about whether or not we end up in slumlike conditions. It’s about time the Exec board pulled its bloody socks up & did something decent & dignified for the town for once. People will pay the annual council tax increases, they’ll deal with cuts across the county & make do. But what we can’t make do with is this town turning into an absolute sh*thole.
Also, a new group of activists has set-up in Wrexham to deal with this issue and other issues of concern around the county, such as the deteriorating state of the roads. So feel free to join.
JP is spot on – the Executive Board doesn’t need a Buck Stops Here attitude and accept culpable responsibility for anything as long as they can defer to ‘External Experts’ as having given the reason for any inaction or negative activities.
It’s a bit like a king consulting a soothsayer back in the olden days. We daren’t question the wisdom of the sacred ones their wisdom has been passed down from the Gods.
It’s exactly the same smoke & mirrors used with consultants. Trying to deflect away the reality of the decision making. Something ends up tits up – no problem just blame one set of consultants for the catastrophic failure and use another one next time – they’re a dime a dozen.
One quick interjection – does everyone remember the good old days of pre-2016 Referendum where everyone and their brother’s dog didn’t need to be both EU law and British constitutional law experts to take part in a day to day conversation either online or with family members?
I miss rambling about the weather.
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Prmaiarly cause my taid fought in WW2 to give us the freedom
[/quote]I think you need to examine the roles of the UK – in that respect – we already had the freedom – a large number of commonwealth nations leading up to World War II did not have freedom and independence from us.
You only need to look at India, Pakistan, Jordan, Sri Lanka and Israel who all became free from British rule post World War 2. We were the Empire builders that Hitler looked upon in great envy (I’m not equivalating – but we were not without flaws). We have gradually tried to move past our legacy of conquest and blood, just like Germany is now doing so.
Nowhere in the UK became occupied, so subsequently didn’t need to be freed – the 2 bailiwicks of Jersey and Guernsey became occupied but they are technically part of the British Isles.
The very idea that British media through rose tinted glasses likes to paint UK as the underdogs is absurd. Yes, it was a justified defensive move to fight the Nazis but also it was a War that had significant consequences to our allies across Europe – whom we went to help liberate and British people went and fought and gave their lives so that all of Europe might be free of fascist oppression.
The Germany in the EU now is a completely different kettle of fish to the Nazi-fronted Germany of the past and 99.99% of them are absolutely appalled by their country’s past – which is why they are part of the EU alongside a number of other European countries so that we do not end up in a warlike state on the continent again.
The 1975 EU referendum was put in place to ensure that the people of the UK – 30 years after World War 2 were still committed and close to our neighbours and allies across Europe. What is so wrong about cooperation and peace rather than closed borders.
Yes, you can turn round and say that it feels like the EU is now becoming more and more oppressive, that’s a matter for discussion and debate, but nobody has rolled tanks in straight past the Maginot line and taken France on this occasion and there’s no bombers in the sky.
Surely if you want to keep the EU in check and prevent them from creating an United States of Europe which shanghais our laws, currency and culture entirely – then the best place to do so is surely from within the EU itself? The UK already has one of the best levels of opt out on everything because it is a powerful influential country (within the lattice of the EU) – no obligation to join the Euro, no obligation to join the Shengen.
Sitting out on the sidelines seems like a bad idea, you can already see how much pressure the EU applies to the likes of Switzerland, Turkey (only 3% of the country is in Europe!) and the 3 European Economic Area countries. The EU 27 controls the waters, the skies, the borders – it has the continent wrapped up. If the UK leaves now on a no deal then to carry out any future trading relationship with our closest trading partners will be on their terms – that’s 27 countries vs one vastly diminished UK – there’s no room for bombastic chest puffing – we’re a strongly placed and well economically based island nation, but an empire we are no longer.
If we keep our seat at the table we can continue to say what’s acceptable, what’s unacceptable – France are the main ones loving that the UK is on the way out because it can flex more now because we were the ones to keep them in check.
I understand there are concerns over other issues like immigration, but you only need to look at the likes of Hungary whom are in the Schengen but have put in their own domestic anti-immigration laws and the EU hasn’t even bat an eyelid.
That speech is by snake oil salesman David Cameron who f*cked off as soon as his con artistry failed. Those words aren’t even worth the carbon dioxide molecules exhaled as he uttered them.
Herein lies the problem. If it was a once in a generation vote he should have put the binding legislation in place so that the referendum held such validity. Not something flimsy and divisive that people would spend the next 3+ years failing to implement and trying to overturn.
It was a sham referendum & all leave voters have been sold up the river by the Tories & their Eton Boys Games. Boris just being the latest in place to bugger you all about.
[quote quote=174726]Does that mean that the referendum on staying in the EC in 1975 was also advisory & does it mean that the referendum on devolution was too?[/quote]
1975 referendum was not legally binding, so was advisory.
Devo ref in Wales was pre-legislative and therefore also advisory.
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Didn’t Labour campaign in 2017 to honour the result of the referendum? Just a thought[/quote]Yes, because of the absence of UKIP – Tories got roughly a 2/3 of the previous UKIP vote share increase in swing & Labour got roughly a 1/3 of the previous UKIP vote share. So you’d expect a similar proportional swing back towards Brexit Party if people are specifically interested in getting Brexit done.
Across the country Tories would be expected to lose double the numbers to the Brexit Party that Lab will. Currently Labour are at least offering to get a new deal from the EU but whether or not they decide to campaign for it I don’t know. It’s a bit of a fudge to try and please all Lab MPs, members and voters (strong remain/strong leave areas).
Tim’s right – it was an advisory referendum and the Parliamentary arithmetic has NEVER existed at any point post Brexit to actually push Brexit through.
That is the reason why May called an election in 2017 because internal polling in her party, she’d have known the number of pro-EU MPs in her party would have negated her very slim majority and then she lost that majority (showing that enough numbers weren’t really behind Brexit in the public view 1 year on) and had to go into a ropey deal with the DUP. Then beyond that it’s just become an absolute farce.
If we have another General Election it will be a complete throw of the dice as to whether or not there will be sufficient parliamentary arithmetic to push Brexit through either on a deal or no deal. Now that the Brexit Party is propping up the Pro-Brexit vote, you have to wonder whether they’ll help or harm the cause on that side because there’s a high chance they will just end up splitting the vote with the Conservatives.
Everyone is expecting another hung parliament and if we have a second referendum – no matter what the outcome – people will be unhappy.
If a confirmatory vote comes through for Brexit – we may still not have the Parliamentary arithmetic for Brexit – because Lib Dems, SNP and the Majority of Lab MPs will never vote a Brexit through. Also – I believe at that point the SNP will immediately trigger intention to run a second IndyRef ASAP and there’s a high chance that will be the end of the UK if they vote to leave (haha).
Then there’s the Ireland problem – that small matter that no Northern Irish republicans will EVER accept a hard border with Southern Ireland meaning Northern Ireland has to permanently stay in an economic zone with the EU. But then No Loyalists (DUP) will EVER accept a sea border with the rest of the UK.
It’s all well and good people continuously saying why can’t we just get on and leave, but it’s a near impossible situation with all the stakeholders involved. The reality is, if we’re going to Brexit England and Wales will achieve that but Scotland will have no part of it and there will be a strong push towards Ireland becoming united.
Then a remain vote will lead to potential civil unrest. What a tangled web we weave.
