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  • #54872

    wrexview
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    This is a prime example of bidding for money to install technology which soon becomes outdated and the Council not having any money to update or repair . I noticed, the recently installed electronic car parking signs are often either switched off or broken. One sign seems to just have the letters “LLL” lit up and nothing else! Similarly the Webcasting not working this week, the initial funding has finished and any extra cost for updating or repairs will fall ,as an extra, on the Council Budget.

    #72046

    johnhoppy
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    @wrexview 18499 wrote:

    This is a prime example of bidding for money to install technology which soon becomes outdated and the Council not having any money to update or repair . I noticed, the recently installed electronic car parking signs are often either switched off or broken. One sign seems to just have the letters “LLL” lit up and nothing else! Similarly the Webcasting not working this week, the initial funding has finished and any extra cost for updating or repairs will fall ,as an extra, on the Council Budget.

    This is a case of spending money just because it is available, with no thought as to the ongoing commitment to keep these systems running. Wherever the grant monies came from originally, it is OUR money that is being spent. No doubt the bus companies will also have spent money to install equipment on their vehicles to comply with the system, and I would imagine that they feel a little cheated by now as well.

    Will this be the fate of the proposed Arts and Cultural Centre which is proposed for the Peoples Market once the grant funding for that project finishes? Not so easy to just switch that off !!

    #72052

    moggsie
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    @johnhoppy 18501 wrote:

    This is a case of spending money just because it is available, with no thought as to the ongoing commitment to keep these systems running. Wherever the grant monies came from originally, it is OUR money that is being spent. No doubt the bus companies will also have spent money to install equipment on their vehicles to comply with the system, and I would imagine that they feel a little cheated by now as well.

    Will this be the fate of the proposed Arts and Cultural Centre which is proposed for the Peoples Market once the grant funding for that project finishes? Not so easy to just switch that off !!

    Spot on John. A common problem in today’s knee-jerk society. It’s travelling too fast for our decision-makers brains to operate effectively.

    #72048

    jimbow
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    Why is it that people on these forums can see the problems with sustainability, when the powers that be cannot ? :confused:

    #72041

    wrexview
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    The real problem is firmly in the lap of the Welsh Assembly, they should stop withholding money from Councils and then gradually releasing some finance that can only be spent as dictated by them. The £40,000 initial spending offered to all 22 Councils on Webcasting is just one example. Wrexham Council would have much preferred the £40,000 to be added to their budget so they could spend it on necessities. What is the total amount per year that is withheld in this way?

    #72043

    zinger
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    I agree. That was the problem with solar panels put on council house roofs. There was a limited time frame for them to be installed for a grant. How much extra did it cost though to have the panels removed again whilst having old roofs renewed, and then replaced again? The Welsh Assembly & the EU treat local government with contempt. They say ‘Jump’ & the councils say ‘How high!’

    #72044

    BenjaminM
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    @jimbow 18504 wrote:

    Why is it that people on these forums can see the problems with sustainability, when the powers that be cannot ? :confused:

    Because the contributors to this forum have exceptional powers of hindsight and are more than eager to jump on the bandwagon when things do go wrong.

    Always, always half empty, never half full.

    Some positivity would be a pleasant and refreshing change……. Please!!!!!!

    #72047

    MP1953
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    @BenjaminM 18511 wrote:

    Because the contributors to this forum have exceptional powers of hindsight and are more than eager to jump on the bandwagon when things do go wrong.

    Always, always half empty, never half full.

    Some positivity would be a pleasant and refreshing change……. Please!!!!!!

    Here I go again BenjaminM !! :)

    Its half empty because virtually anything to do with Wrexham Council invariably does go wrong, and are poor decisions from the outset…

    #72049

    jimbow
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    @BenjaminM 18511 wrote:

    Because the contributors to this forum have exceptional powers of hindsight and are more than eager to jump on the bandwagon when things do go wrong.

    Always, always half empty, never half full.

    Some positivity would be a pleasant and refreshing change……. Please!!!!!!

    I have no exceptional powers of hindsight and do not believe that by expressing my view is jumping on the bandwagon. I get the impression from your posts that you are the Council’s No 1 fan. During my business lifetime I have dealt with the Council in my manufacturing business, and also my retail business. Believe you me they leave a lot to be desired. As for positivity how can my one vote change their thinking ?

    #72053

    Maureen Gray
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    Should WCBC spend £20K on fixing an electronic white elephant, or give it to Social services, Libraries, Youth Clubs etc…etc….easy really.

    What they definitely should do is disconnect them [still powered up] and remove them.

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