Prison Names FOI: Yale Jail or HMP Bad Dragon?
Earlier this year an invite was opened to members of the public to suggest names for the new prison by Wrexham, with 54 of you taking part.
The invite was extended by the National Offender Management Service (NOMS) who then collated the responses. Wrexham.com placed an FOI to discover the suggestions, and after a lengthy wait the results are below, with a mix of fun and more serious ideas.
Two weeks ago the final shortlist was made public, with queries over some of the spelling and translations of the names suggested.
Below are the names suggested by members of the public, along with the reason given. It is likely that the prison name would take the form of X Prison, or HMP X rather than the stand alone name or phrase. The names are suggested by the public, as are the reasons attached, therefore any spelling errors or historical inaccuracies are from the public rather than NOMS or ourselves!
Cadwallon was king of Gwynedd in 625 until his death in battle and his name means ‘One who leads’, hence I thought a leading prison.
The word mountain in Welsh is “Mynydd” I feel this would be quite suiting. Mountains are large and a challenge to climb, in many aspects the prison has been a challenge for many, and will when open, challenge those who do not observe the law.
After the local river
After the father of Welsh Nationalism
This is a local road nearby on the roundabout
After Elihu Yale. Who originated from Wrexham and then set up Yale University. (Could be sponsored…Yale Locks
Y Ffordd Gywir
This translates into The Correct Road
After the Firestone site
Famous medieval Welsh law giver
Welsh translation of Fire Stone, the former site
After a local river
Combines Welsh and English language and has an ethos of ‘rising from the ashes’ to self improvement and rebirth
Means North East in Welsh and will remind English visitors of the Welsh weather
Means bad dragon
Maelor originated as an area of The Kingdom of Powys. It became divided from the Kingdom by the construction of Offa’s Dyke in the 8th Century. By the 13th Century Maelor had been divided into a number of areas including, Welsh Maelor – an ancient district of Wales to the west of the River Dee, and English Maelor – an area enclosed by the Welsh/English border. The new prison is being built across the road from the hamlet of Pentre Maelor The new prison is being built within a modern Business PARK
This has local meaning and is Welsh
Carchar Owain Glyndwr
NEWRI – North East Wales Reform Institute
It ‘regionalizes’ the prison rather than naming it after a town or area and a goal of any prison should be to reform inmates to prevent re-offending.
translates as ‘water meadow’, which is the meaning of the name Wrexham/Wrecsam.
Named after the Welsh King who’s codification of Welsh law helped foster a sense of nationhood and, crucially, citizenship. The key words here being LAW and CITIZENSHIP.
Located near Beddgelert, Dinas Emrys is the mountain home of the famous Welsh red dragon. In the fifth century the Celtic King Vortigern chose the area as the site for his castle. A prison has many similar properties to a castle, a place of seclusion, protection and security etc.
Llech meaning slate – Welsh slate and a clean slate
Translates into ‘holy boarder’ Having studied a little about the history of prisons, and that they were originally designed as a place of repentance. I think that this name could be seen in a positive light. Hopefully encouraging the prisoners to move forward and repent for the crimes they have committed.
because its between england and wales in the marchers
You can see the Cambrian mountains
Welsh for prison
Carchar y Ffin
Mixture of being on the bridge and the old Firestone site
Dee Bank prison
Bowling bank prison
St. Paul’s Prison
THE MATHEWS PRISON
The most infamous member of the constabulary and a Wrexham character
Hen Delynau Prison (Old Harps Prison)
Taken from ‘Rhyfel’. Harp being a symbol of Wales, relates to peace and hope.
Translates as ‘New’ in English
based on the first English Lord from 1282 (John de Warenne)
We are proud of the town and want to show it off
HMP North Wales Prison
After the ‘hanging judge’ who was born in Wrexham
After the Stonefire site
HMP Westside Wrexham
After St Richard Gwyn
The final shortlisted names released was as below, with comment from the National Offender Management Service. Russ Trent, governor of the new prison, said: “We now have a shortlist of six names, all suggested by the local community, for the prison. We would now like to hear people’s views on this shortlist as the final decision is made.
We had a number of suggestions for Mynydd, which is Welsh for ‘mountain’ because of the landscape. The prison’s naming sub-committee felt this was an excellent choice but then wanted it to be more localised so suggested naming it after the nearby mountains – hence Y Berwyn.
The name of the main road into the estate where the prison is based.
Named after the wider ‘marches’, the location on the boarder of Wales and England where the prison is located.
Welsh for Fire Stone, the former factory on the prison site.
Based on the river which runs through the area.
The Saxon name for Wrexham.
Mr Trent added: “I would like to thank everyone for their suggestions and our committee for coming up with the shortlist.”
To give any feedback on the final shortlist people are encouraged to email email@example.com
As we first noted whichever name is put forward will have to be signed off by the Queen as the prison is Crown Property.
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