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  • in reply to: Youngsters with suntans in supermarkets #192519

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    In fact Matt, I’ve seen plenty, plenty of youth bashing throughout this pandemic and previous.
    Sadly, there are many people who are demonising younger individuals with comments neigh-on identical.

    As for being a hoot at parties… I’d suggest that it doesn’t particularly bother me to be seen, or not seen as such.

    in reply to: Youngsters with suntans in supermarkets #192497

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    Huge, sweeping generalisations Councillor X…
    Easy enough to pass comment without anything more than fleeting observations and anecdotal evidence I suppose.

    These are the same young people who have been told throughout lock down to get outside and exercise are they not? You wouldn’t see my perfectly portly body in a vest top or the like. So one would assume that the majority of these “youngsters” probably lead at least reasonably healthy lifestyles if nothing else, ones conducive to potentially picking up a tan here and there.

    I sincerely hope you tone down the ageism in future, it’s not helpful, required or frankly fair.

    in reply to: OMG Town centre to reopen #187983

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    Personally, I’m happy that Drakeford has been cautious about reopening.
    Yes it’s a bit of a pain, yes I’d love to see my friends and family… but I also want them to still be safe and alive to visit in the first place. If this *relatively* short term pain facilitates that in the end, I’m all for it.

    As for businesses, it’s a tough situation they find themselves in. Personally, I believe that Covid has changed the landscape of doing business in a positive manner ( pushing online, work from home, exploring technology) these are things I’ve been pushing for for years. I genuinely do think at some point in the not too distant future, companies having big buildings will be a thing of the past as the push would be towards a more modest building, coupled with hot desking sites in population centres (essentially a bloody big room with standard office set ups that anyone can “rent” for x amount of time) as well as people working from home etc. Heck, potentially even allowing some people to live a kind of digital nomad life (travel with the security of having a job and income).

    Yes, right now it is tough. I’m the generation who came into the employment market on the back end of the financial crash in 07/08, have lived (are living) through austerity and now this. What the governments (uk and WG) need to do now is support entrepreneurship like they never have before in order to get some sustainable job growth in and ultimately, grow ourselves out of this situation.


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    Matt
    “The call centre” – I haven’t got a clue about the alleged deletions of your questions and alleged questions of others (perhaps they were deleted and I didn’t see them… who knows?). However, I’m fairly certain the allegations were cleared were they not via independent investigations – or is my political knowledge failing me on this occasion. But we would be lying to one another if we didn’t accept that on points one doesn’t want to engage with… people don’t engage with? REGARDLESS of the reason why. If it was me… my response would be that I was cleared by an independent investigation and surely that’s enough trail to lean towards innocence.

    Ref your points about Twitter – I’ve seen this happen on all sides. I’ve also been subject to it from all sides. Unfortunately parties need to sort their affairs out in that regard. So that’s pretty much an even keel on that.

    Ref the Tory Chairman and Tory Youth Wing – you’re going to have to educate me on that one I’m afraid… I’m legitimately unaware. Though to say that your current swathe of lab councillors are a credible opposition is a stretch – I was there at the alternative budget meeting and that was just a pure joke.

    In fairness… if your both being prattish to each other I can understand why one would ignore questions. Ian Lucas and Lesley did it to me for example. Again… a common problem. The only one who regularly comes back to me is Ken – and as such we maintain a positive line of communications.

    As for your sleeper cells ( I did chuckle at that by the way) providing it’s in the rules… it’s fair game. I just hope I don’t see some of the VERY VERY questionable tactics that I encountered during 2010, 2012, 2013, 2015 2016 and 2017 by a significant portion of candidates. Perhaps election rules need tweeking? One for the ERS.

    Councillor X – I’ve already got a small travellers community on my doorstep – didn’t complain about it at any point. Everybody needs to live somewhere. As long as my property, family and beloved dog are safe and sound – I couldn’t give a monkeys who rocks up next door.


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    Right, let’s get in to a few parts of this shall we Matt?

    How can I criticise for not having a viable idea of my own? Well… put simply… I’ve got the brain cells to understand that I don’t have a viable option that pleases all – I have my personal preferences based on my own internal biases. However I also understand that something needs to be done about the situation. It seems your option is to winge at whatever option is being undertaken because you’re too imposed in your own reality to pin your idea to the wall and let people look at it. (For the record, I’m fully in favour of what so far has been done in order to move people on. I do believe we need another community for travellers – however I also believe that this needs to be done strategically with support from NWP and not just “plopped” somewhere and have to deal with it on the back foot)

    I have a strong track record of criticising where I believe it’s due – every colour – including the one I stood for! However, I’m also very quick to *rightfully* defend the exact same politicians when I believe that they have made the right call or that petty attacks on them and their characters are totally unwarranted. That’s all part of the balance of politics and I’d like to think that if we ever want a strong council (read: democracy) we as electors need to be able to identify, and voice our support where warranted just as much as our criticism – irrespective of party colours.

    I’m sure Atkinson can make his own statements and I’m sure if he feels he needs to he probably will. I’m making *MY* statement of defence just as you are making *YOUR* statement of attack.

    As for being part of Atkinson’s “clique” as you put it. I’ve met the guy once when I stood as an independent in the last election. Again, if and when I find fault in is approach, don’t you worry a moment, I’ll let you know. Do you want it by pigeon or poem?

    I act dumbfounded because as far as I can make out the only reason many people don’t like him is because he sits under a blue flag. You’re admitting that yourself when you say he’d be more popular if he wasn’t a Tory.

    To summarise:

      Give me some proof to why he’s the bad guy.

    What exactly has he done to offend / upset / wind you up. If you provide me strong enough evidence I’m more than happy to support your claims. As far as I can see, you just don’t like him because he’s a Tory.

    *Point of information… I stood for yellow in 2012, I stood as indy in 2017 – I’m certainly not a Tory. I’m however certainly not a socialist or whatever brand of red we’ve currently got.


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    It really does seem to be somewhat of a hate campaign but I genuinely can’t for the life of me understand why. You can cite freedom of speech as much as you’d like however the fact remains that his residents wanted him to act. He acted.

    If he didn’t act, he’d be strung up. And yet many individuals sit on their thrones casting stones with seemingly very little to offer in the way of an alternative… or have I jumped the gun and someone was coming out with a corker of an idea to fix the situation


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    Fairly unfair criticism of Atkinson I’d say, he’s doing his job and looking after the interests of his ward. That’s essentially what he’s been elected to do. I’m pretty sure every other councillor would be saying the same thing right now if it was their wards.

    What would your please all solution be? I don’t have one so I’m really interested to hear any that get brought up.


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    Hello Matt,
    Issue I have with this…
    I am aware you’re a staunch labour supporter (and I like to try and see things from both points of view)… however looking at the proposals put forward in the ‘alternative’ budget, that would go a whole distance in order to plug this gap?

    Yes, the music service would have an impact – but that’s a £250,000 between approximately 50 schools (ish?) and that’s just under the presumption that Wrexham music service is wholly geared towards schools.

    I’d have to check the webcast again and scrutinise the proposal more carefully… but I genuinely don’t recall anything in the alternative budget that’d support your argument – there was the argument of adding £500,000 in to SECONDARY schools (of which neither of these are)?

    Surely… if the alternative budget was passed, then the opposition parties would have been voting in favour of the budget as amended by their amendment? Which would have seen exactly the same set of finances put forward.

    If they weren’t going to vote in favour of the amended budget, then why was the amendment put forward in the first place other than for a bit of media attention? However, if I’ve overlooked some critical elements of the alternative budget that would satisfy the budget deficit – please let me know.

    I don’t think it’s a particularly ‘nice’ budget – and there are certainly bits that people can take a slight to in my opinion. However, I find it rather naughty to try and make a party political point out of the budget when amended would have had the support of Labour, Plaid et al.

    in reply to: Suffragettes & Wrexham #144323

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    I’d like to think Rob keeps this up, for prosperity’s sake more than anything. Doesn’t show you in a particularly good like Idris.

    in reply to: Suffragettes & Wrexham #144293

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    Yes Matt, just yes!

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