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Old 09-19-2013, 12:46 PM
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After trawling attendance records and data requests one thing has struck me - what would be a good set of measures regarding Councillor performances?

The raw 'official' public data is limited to attendance data here. The data is purely numerical , and not linked to give further information on apologies or the like. Similarly there is no data on other types of meetings or events.

I have done a quick tabulation / sort below - something that isnt on the council site.

The issue with this is its very raw with no context - so as per the thread title - what indicators would be useful?


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Expected: The number of meetings that the Councillor was expected to attend in their capacity as a member of a committee.

Present: The number of meetings that the Councillor attended in their capacity as a member of that committee.

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Name Expected Present %age attendance
Andrew Bailey 19 19 100
R J Dutton OBE 10 10 100
D J Griffiths 11 11 100
Hugh Jones 8 8 100
J A Kelly KSG 15 15 100
Geoff Lowe 9 9 100
Carole O'Toole 11 11 100
Paul H Pemberton 13 13 100
John Phillips 9 9 100
Mrs J M B Roberts 16 16 100
Neil Rogers 13 13 100
Steve Wilson 14 14 100
Phil Wynn 13 13 100
John Pritchard 20 19 95
Brian Cameron 17 16 94
O Arfon Jones 17 16 94
Barbara Roxburgh 17 16 94
Lloyd Kenyon 15 14 93
T Alan Edwards 13 12 92
David Kelly 13 12 92
M C King OBE 13 12 92
Bernie McCann 23 21 91
Ronnie Prince 10 9 90
I David Bithell MBE 9 8 89
Paul Rogers 9 8 89
William Baldwin 16 14 88
Michael Williams 8 7 88
M G Morris 15 13 87
Graham Rogers 15 13 87
Kevin Hughes 13 11 85
David Taylor 13 11 85
Dana Louise Davies 19 16 84
Mark Pritchard 12 10 83
J R Skelland 12 10 83
David A Bithell 11 9 82
Colin Powell 11 9 82
R Alun Jenkins 16 13 81
Mike Edwards 21 17 81
Andy Williams 15 12 80
Derek Wright 19 15 79
Mrs J M Lowe 9 7 78
Anne Evans 16 12 75
Mark Owens 12 9 75
I Roberts 12 9 75
Terry Evans 17 12 71
G W Griffiths 9 6 67
Paul Blackwell 8 5 63
P Jeffares 7 4 57
Terry Boland 9 5 56
Malcolm Taylor 10 5 50
Krista Childs 9 4 44
A Keith Gregory 10 4 40

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In attendance table: The number of meetings that the Councillor attended in a capacity other than committee member, for example, attending a meeting out of personal interest or because a topic being discussed affects a Members' ward.
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Councillor In Attendance
Andrew Bailey 7
Carole O'Toole 7
R Alun Jenkins 6
Derek Wright 6
R J Dutton OBE 5
D J Griffiths 5
O Arfon Jones 5
Bernie McCann 5
Mark Pritchard 5
Steve Wilson 5
Phil Wynn 5
T Alan Edwards 4
Neil Rogers 4
David Taylor 4
William Baldwin 3
David A Bithell 3
I David Bithell MBE 3
Paul Blackwell 3
Brian Cameron 3
Krista Childs 3
Hugh Jones 3
Mrs J M Lowe 3
Barbara Roxburgh 3
J R Skelland 3
Dana Louise Davies 2
Anne Evans 2
P Jeffares 2
David Kelly 2
Lloyd Kenyon 2
M C King OBE 2
John Phillips 2
John Pritchard 2
Graham Rogers 2
Andy Williams 2
Mike Edwards 1
J A Kelly KSG 1
Geoff Lowe 1
M G Morris 1
Mark Owens 1
Paul H Pemberton 1
Colin Powell 1
I Roberts 1
Mrs J M B Roberts 1
Paul Rogers 1
Michael Williams 1
Terry Boland 0
Terry Evans 0
A Keith Gregory 0
G W Griffiths 0
Kevin Hughes 0
Ronnie Prince 0
Malcolm Taylor 0

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(above data covers 'Period commencing: 05/2013')
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:14 PM
 
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Default Re: Councillor Performance Indicators

They way they vote on key issues is recorded isn't it? I'm not 100% how that would fit in with your data though.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:38 PM
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So have you contacted the lower councillors for a right of reply?

what if they were ill or had a health problem and unable to attend?
A right to reply to what?

As per initial post
The raw 'official' public data is limited to attendance data here. The data is purely numerical , and not linked to give further information on apologies or the like. Similarly there is no data on other types of meetings or events.

The issue with this is its very raw with no context


Should the higher Councillors get a 'right to reply' on why they have attended meetings, likewise those with middling records?!

The point is the data out there is limited... so what data would be useful?
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:26 PM
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Right - so that is something that can be improved in terms of the data put in public, if a valid reason has been given :d Likewise publication of valid reasons / who decides - otherwise that could be politicised.

Essentially what you are saying is prior to cut and pasting data from the Council website is I should have emailed all Councillors asking for details on their health prior to hitting 'post'. I think you have said you have tried contacting cllrs before without much joy, so in theory there would be no discussion.

In the hope to make this a useful thread I have noted down stuff that could give extra context:
- type of meeting
- time of meeting (some may only be able to attend evening meetings)
- day of week meeting
- councillors employment
- 'paid' meeting (ie. attendance of a meeting where cllr has extra allowance)
- did they participate

It could be interesting to see time of attendance as well, as some do leave earlier than others.

Likewise as per inital post, is attendance a worthwhile metric?

Do people want cllrs to attend and do nothing... or is there something extra that can be measured?
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:29 PM
 
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Default Re: Councillor Performance Indicators

You seem to be criticising Rob for re-publishing the raw data in a table format? I don't see the problem. Rob then asks what indicators should be included in the councils raw data. Every other gov dept is audited or efficiency and value for money...Why not our elected officials?
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Old 09-19-2013, 02:39 PM
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Looking around its interesting to see what other councils put in public:

Attendance record - Councillor Gareth Anderson
Meeting attendance - Meeting of Council on Thursday, 16th May, 2013, 5.00 pm

so Chester/Cheshire have linked data for absent/apologies/present

Flintshire do similar - Committee Meetings - Agendas, Reports and Minutes - Flintshire County Council giving attendance percentage, number of apologies and percentages of those as well.

Both also list if a representative was sent instead as well, all more detail than the current WCBC method WCBC: Members Attendance Record - Councillor Andrew Bailey

(note random cllrs used)
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Default Re: Councillor Performance Indicators

Interesting that Councillor Andrew Bailey attends everything but when I tried emailing him recently he didn't bother to reply to me. Maybe some councillors attend for the free coffee?
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Old 09-19-2013, 05:29 PM
 
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Default Re: Councillor Performance Indicators

In defense of Wrexham.com, every councillor has a right of reply on these forums as has every one of us. I don't suppose they are hovering at their computer waiting to respond to every comment on here as it occurs, but if they feel strongly enough about anything they would do so.
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Default Re: Councillor Performance Indicators

Decades ago Councillors were paid an Attendance Allowance which could only be claimed for each individual meeting they actually attended.Previous to that they were not paid at all. Do we expect more of our Councillors now that they are salaried and easily contactable via the Internet ?
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Old 09-19-2013, 06:40 PM
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If wrexham.com doesn't want to be an independent online newspaper and be a blog, I would agree with that.
Probably better for a seperate thread but I would say we have deliberatly not done some newspapery stuff... and blogs can do what we do. Llanblogger is a good example, even has blog in the name. Interestingly this debate wouldnt and couldnt take place on newspaper sites I can think of.

Hyperlocal sites are a dead interesting topic as there are people trying to dream up rules, models and pigeonhole things into defined boxes but no actual 'right' way or definative criteria. Will start a thread when on a pc
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