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June 9, 2018 at 1:44 pm in reply to: Kingdom Zero Tolerance video evidence blocked by Wrexham Council bureaucracy #150476
Latest news on the North Wales Against Kingdom Security Facebook group is that all North Wales council’s apart from Wrexham, are supposedly getting rid of Kingdom in August. Wrexham will surely follow though.
There are at least two ways that Kingdom have breached their contract that could be used to terminate it. Firstly, by not giving alleged offenders a chance to pick up the litter before issuing an FPN as required by law and secondly for trying to obtain money by deception from making false threats of police involment for refusal to give details when it is not a police matter. I have a friend who is a serving police officer at North Wales Police who has confirmed that they will not attend any requests by Kingdom for refusal to cooperate, as it is a civil matter.June 1, 2018 at 12:24 pm in reply to: Kingdom Zero Tolerance video evidence blocked by Wrexham Council bureaucracy #150019
Last week a friend of mine accidentally pulled a receipt from their pocket whilst trying get out some change. They didn’t realise they had done so, until they were pounced on by a Kingdom operative. My friend immediately apologised and picked up the receipt, however the Kingdom operative started to ask for details to issue a fine. My friend refused to give their details,explaining that it was a genuine accident. The Kingdom operative then went into the usual standard script about how it was a criminal offence to refuse to give their details and that they would call the police to assist them. My friend calmly told the kingdom operative that if they wanted to pretend to call the police on their mobile to try and scare them into giving details go ahead, but if you’ll excuse me now I’m going to carry on with my shopping, if you want to carry on following me round shouting pretend threats then that’s up to you, but you’re still not getting any details……Kingdom operative soon leftMay 27, 2018 at 3:27 pm in reply to: Plenty of new work for Kingdom Environmental Protection Services #149723
This is an opportunity for Kingdom to actually provide a PROPER service for once.
I very much have my doubts that they will still be operating in Wrexham in 12 months time when the ban kicks in.
I agree that it’s likely that Kingdom will no longer be in Wrexham by then but even if they are, they’ll still only attempt to enforce the new laws on “easy targets” such as OAP’s and lone women.
I read somewhere that the toilets are still under there and are used as an underground storage room that can be accessed from the new building next to where the stairs down to them originally were. Not sure if this is true though
It’s hardly surprising behaviour from Councillor Pritchard though, along with Councillor Bithell, he is responsible for the Kingdom Security farce.
This is what happens if you ignore them. The guy in question hadn’t even commited any offence, the Kingdom warden tried to wrongfully fine him for smoking in the wrong place. As you can see at 1 minute 50 seconds, the warden pretends to ring the police. Eventually, once the warden realises that the guy won’t fall for it, she gives up.
If you accidentally drop something and Kingdom approach you then firstly pick it up, but say nothing. They will demand that you give them your details but again remain silent and keep walking away from them. At this point, they will be telling you that it is a further offence to fail to provide details and that they will phone the police. Just remain calm and keep walking. At this point, they will most likely pull out a mobile phone and pretend to phone the police, again this is just the last desperate attempt to scare you into giving your details. At this point, once they see that you aren’t falling for their threats, they will give up and try it on with someone else….it’s not worth them continuing to pursue you at this point as they will know by now that there is no chance of them issuing you with a FPN and that if they want to earn their bonus by fullfilling their daily quotas, they will need to try and fine someone else who may fall for it instead.
Wonder how many more people refused their details though
Here is the BBC Panorama documentary Inside The Litter Police, which was filmed last year. Between 14 minutes to 14 and a half minutes, you will hear the Kingdom operative admit that they pretend to call the police, in order to scare people into giving their details. As has already been mentioned previously, Wrexham police have already been overheard on the Townlink radio refusing to get involved when people refuse to give their details.
Kingdom Security have been overheard on the townlink radio a number of times asking for police assistance when something refuses to give their details. Each time, the reply from the police has been that they can’t legally get involved.
Futherore, Kingdom Security don’t actually record alleged offences, they only switch their body cameras on when approaching people. So no one has to worry about being identified in the future as there will be no evidence on camera anyway
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