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    There is an extremely high chance that all Kingdom fines may have to be refunded in the near future. The Welsh Assembly are currently investigating.


    Wrexham1
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    So Conwy Council have now voted to get rid of Kingdom, we should find out tomorrow if Wrexham Council will be doing the same

    It is my understanding that if we hear nothing then the contract still stands until further notice. No-one is allowed to report anything on the meeting. What a joke.[/quote

    According to Wrexham Against Kingdom Security, the information will be released tomorrow once WCBC issue their decision notice. Apparently though, the meeting was described as “very frustrating”, which doesn’t sound promising.


    Wrexham1
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    So Conwy Council have now voted to get rid of Kingdom, we should find out tomorrow if Wrexham Council will be doing the same


    Wrexham1
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    Now the council have banned the public from attending tonights scrutiny meeting on Kingdom. What is Councillors Bithell trying to hide?


    Wrexham1
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    The sooner Kingdom Security and Councillor Bithell are gone, the better


    Wrexham1
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    That’s why it’s best not to.say anything to them, as posted above, even if you politely say I’m sorry I’ll pick it up, that can be used against you.

    As also posted above, by law Kingdom are supposed to offer people the chance to pick up the litter before issuing a fine, but they do not do this.


    Wrexham1
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    Not me in this video and I’ve no idea if the gentleman was guilty or not but the police let him go eventually and couldn’t make him hand his details over to Kingdom.


    Wrexham1
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    A friend of mine is a serving officer with North Wales Police. I have asked him about what happens when someone refuses to give Kingdom their details and he has told me that the police will not attend as they cannot force the alleged offender to give Kingdom their details and futhermore, the police cannot pass any details over to Kingdom due to data protection.


    Wrexham1
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    I think that due to the great work of the North Wales Against Kingdom Security Facebook group, it won’t be long until Kingdom are gone from Wrexham and it is quite possible that all FPN’s may have to be refunded. In the meantime, please don’t deliberately drop litter but if you do accidentally drop something and Kingdom try it on then pick up your litter, remain calm and walk away from them


    Wrexham1
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    Latest news on the North Wales Against Kingdom Security Facebook group is that all North Wales council’s apart from Wrexham, are supposedly getting rid of Kingdom in August. Wrexham will surely follow though.

    There are at least two ways that Kingdom have breached their contract that could be used to terminate it. Firstly, by not giving alleged offenders a chance to pick up the litter before issuing an FPN as required by law and secondly for trying to obtain money by deception from making false threats of police involment for refusal to give details when it is not a police matter. I have a friend who is a serving police officer at North Wales Police who has confirmed that they will not attend any requests by Kingdom for refusal to cooperate, as it is a civil matter.

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