Wrexham1

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  • Wrexham1
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    That’s why it’s best not to.say anything to them, as posted above, even if you politely say I’m sorry I’ll pick it up, that can be used against you.

    As also posted above, by law Kingdom are supposed to offer people the chance to pick up the litter before issuing a fine, but they do not do this.


    Wrexham1
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    Not me in this video and I’ve no idea if the gentleman was guilty or not but the police let him go eventually and couldn’t make him hand his details over to Kingdom.


    Wrexham1
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    A friend of mine is a serving officer with North Wales Police. I have asked him about what happens when someone refuses to give Kingdom their details and he has told me that the police will not attend as they cannot force the alleged offender to give Kingdom their details and futhermore, the police cannot pass any details over to Kingdom due to data protection.


    Wrexham1
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    I think that due to the great work of the North Wales Against Kingdom Security Facebook group, it won’t be long until Kingdom are gone from Wrexham and it is quite possible that all FPN’s may have to be refunded. In the meantime, please don’t deliberately drop litter but if you do accidentally drop something and Kingdom try it on then pick up your litter, remain calm and walk away from them


    Wrexham1
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    Latest news on the North Wales Against Kingdom Security Facebook group is that all North Wales council’s apart from Wrexham, are supposedly getting rid of Kingdom in August. Wrexham will surely follow though.

    There are at least two ways that Kingdom have breached their contract that could be used to terminate it. Firstly, by not giving alleged offenders a chance to pick up the litter before issuing an FPN as required by law and secondly for trying to obtain money by deception from making false threats of police involment for refusal to give details when it is not a police matter. I have a friend who is a serving police officer at North Wales Police who has confirmed that they will not attend any requests by Kingdom for refusal to cooperate, as it is a civil matter.


    Wrexham1
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    Last week a friend of mine accidentally pulled a receipt from their pocket whilst trying get out some change. They didn’t realise they had done so, until they were pounced on by a Kingdom operative. My friend immediately apologised and picked up the receipt, however the Kingdom operative started to ask for details to issue a fine. My friend refused to give their details,explaining that it was a genuine accident. The Kingdom operative then went into the usual standard script about how it was a criminal offence to refuse to give their details and that they would call the police to assist them. My friend calmly told the kingdom operative that if they wanted to pretend to call the police on their mobile to try and scare them into giving details go ahead, but if you’ll excuse me now I’m going to carry on with my shopping, if you want to carry on following me round shouting pretend threats then that’s up to you, but you’re still not getting any details……Kingdom operative soon left


    Wrexham1
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    This is an opportunity for Kingdom to actually provide a PROPER service for once.

    I very much have my doubts that they will still be operating in Wrexham in 12 months time when the ban kicks in.

    I agree that it’s likely that Kingdom will no longer be in Wrexham by then but even if they are, they’ll still only attempt to enforce the new laws on “easy targets” such as OAP’s and lone women.

    in reply to: The Old Underground Toilet in Town #149664

    Wrexham1
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    I read somewhere that the toilets are still under there and are used as an underground storage room that can be accessed from the new building next to where the stairs down to them originally were. Not sure if this is true though

    in reply to: Row in Council Chamber #149599

    Wrexham1
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    It’s hardly surprising behaviour from Councillor Pritchard though, along with Councillor Bithell, he is responsible for the Kingdom Security farce.

    in reply to: Litter Patrol Chased off Anglesey – Kingdom Come? #148944

    Wrexham1
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    This is what happens if you ignore them. The guy in question hadn’t even commited any offence, the Kingdom warden tried to wrongfully fine him for smoking in the wrong place. As you can see at 1 minute 50 seconds, the warden pretends to ring the police. Eventually, once the warden realises that the guy won’t fall for it, she gives up.

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