Rex Ham
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[quote quote=114009]If the EU is so good for jobs why is unemployment so high in EU countries?
Spain 20.4%
Greece 24%
Italy 12%Anyway, the issue for me is the EU is not democratic and should not rule over the UK. So I am voting out.
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I think we all know Andy that these countries have their own problems. Over spending on infrastructure they can’t afford. An inability to grasp the basics of “living within your means” as my owld Welsh granny used to say! Now living with austerity measures we can’t imagine. I have many Greek friends who are only scraping a living together.We enjoy a relatively low level of unemployment in the UK and I see no reason to want to jeapordise that. Yes of course there are many problems within the EU, but surely we can have greatest influence to make it more democratic from within.
To add to my earlier post, I am also reminded that Airbus have also make worrying noises about their UK manufacturing. Another employer that benefits the Wrexham area.
Hmm MargaretA, for one so undecided, your points seem so well made.
I would just add, that whilst we hear about BMW, Volkswagen etc., still wanting to sell their cars to us, will they be as willing to make their cars here? For example, the Vauxhall plant in Ellesmere Port (which employs a lot of Wrexham people), they make Astra cars not only for the British market, but for all of Europe (Opel Astra)it might be easier for them to make their cars in a country within the EU. BMW make the mini range in Oxford, Toyota in Deeside and Derby, Nissan in Sunderland. These companies have much more interest in selling to the whole of Europe, and it might be easier for them to manufacture in Europe rather than a stand alone UK. What price UK jobs then?
Reading the Daily Post, I am disappointed to read that some people are being critical of the sculpture, calling it “scrap” and saying the council have paid for it.
Even if the sculpture were made out of scrap metal (and in a way, I hope it was) there is no need to be negative about it. If the council had paid for it (and the creator says not), then it’s the first worthwhile expenditure they’ve made in years!
And, looking closely, I think the miner is leaning on a pick axe, not taking a pee. My dad used to tell me there was never time for a pee down the pit!!!
It is amazing that a small group of people have created and installed such an instantly iconic piece of sculpture for everyone to enjoy.
Please let it stay. It will become our own Angel of the north Wales.
Yes, sorry Dewi73 and all. Clumsy choice of words from me. I was trying to convey that as well as the initial constructions jobs, there are longer term jobs when the prison opens, from which local people might get benefit.
Zinger, you have made me laugh! Your comment reads ” we probably will be importing a lot of criminals to the prison.” I rather think that is the reason for having a prison in the first place!
Being serious for a mo, we are only talking about construction jobs here. There will be many opportunities for Wrexham people to gain longer term employment when the construction is finished.
Daave63 I suppose you are right in a way. But, when dealing with a complicated piece of engineering which is 90 years old, it’s best to have a plan B just in case something goes wrong. If the Flying Scotsman isn’t available, I imagine the gobs on the passengers who have paid hundreds of pounds for the trip will be a lot longer than those of us standing by Bersham colliery to see the spectacle!
