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[quote quote=122908]Sheefag…I hope you are at least prepared to acknowledge that there is currently lots going on behind the scenes which I’ve thought helpful to share with you. I accept the proof is in the eating so I would be bitterly disappointed if noticeable changes aren’t delivered very soon.
In the meantime please consider signing the petition set up in recognition of the sentiment expressed by Rhosddu residents this time last week.
Link to petition: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/support-rhosddu-residents
Cllr P. Wynn
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I don’t know you Cllr P. Wynn or you me but I will say that at least you put yourself right out there for praise or criticism, unlike many Councillors on here who hide behind their true identities..
[quote quote=122835]I understand that Wrexham Council have decided to make all it’s car parks free in December, to help attract Christmas shoppers. This sounds good in theory, but surely what will happen is that people who work in the town centre, and currently park just outside and walk in, will now drive in and use the car parks. By 9:00 a.m. they will be full, defeating the whole idea. It would be better to make them free for a period, say 3 hours, this would help shoppers more.
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Never thought about that but I think you may turn out to be correct.
[quote quote=122609]99DylanJones, I take issue with a number of your points.
“What came first mental health problems then drugs or drugs then mental health?”
I doubt any of the drug users set out to become addicted but instead started as recreational drug users. Some may have been ‘self-medicating’ (unconsciously or otherwise) in an attempt to escape mental health issues, but some will simply have been out for a ‘good time’. Furthermore, the mental health services that were available to them, or which have failed them, are the same mental health services that are available to – or have failed – everyone else too. Drug users do not have a monopoly on mental health issues.
“4) Glasgow Council are looking at the creation of ‘safe/clean’ rooms for drug injections – concentrating the issues in one location in a ‘controlled’ environment”
It could be argued that ‘concentrating the issues in one location’ is precisely what is already happening in Rhosddu. The services that have set up shop in Rhosddu, and who claim to be so knowledgeable about homelessness and substance abuse issues, should have foreseen the consequences of installing themselves so heavily in one particular area. Why would anyone trust these organisations to resolve this issue now?
“For a variety of reasons many of the people causing the problems have been let down by the medical profession due to lack of detox, friends who have deserted them and their own families.”
“5) Why don’t residents themselves take action by facing up to the issues that unfortunately many will have in their own family – move away from thinking it is a phase. Their family member may not be street users at present but it must be a very fine line between in house use and street use.”
“7) Stop trying to blame the Police for a society issue everyone has a responsibility and turning a blind eye does nothing to help- report and chase up for action”
I am gobsmacked at what you have said here. How about you stop blaming the law-abiding residents of Rhosddu? You seem to be saying that the problems in Rhosddu are the residents’ own responsibility. You also appear to suggest that Rhosddu has a preponderance of families with drug issues and just a fine line before their drug-using family members becoming one of Rhosddu’s ‘street users’.
I have lived in social housing with several neighbours being drug users – and I have seen how organisations bend over backwards to help these people, whilst the rest of us are left to suffer their behaviour for months and years. I had to move home to get away from it. I am tired of the excuses made for drug users. I find it offensive when people suggest that it is everyone’s responsibility to deal with this. I think responsibility should be placed squarely where it belongs – on the drug addicts. To do anything else only provides them with a convenient excuse and absolves them of responsibility for their own behaviour.
Drug users can choose to seek help from the services in Rhosddu or they can choose not to. Some drug users are homeless and some are not. Either way, there is no excuse for discarding used needles and drug paraphernalia in places where it can cause harm to other people.
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Well said bubble, the politically correct thing to do is now wearing thin in all walks of life, and as you say with regards to this issue people have bent over backwards but nothing comes back from these people.
[quote quote=122286]Absolutely brilliant idea which is doomed to fail!
The hospital cannot even control its car park so no way is it going to prevent the mums-to-be in their fluffy dressing gowns or people carrying drips from sucking on their cancer sticks next to the “No Smoking” sign![/quote]
Yes the reality is that if someone is a full time smoker and they are in hospital they are going to smoke somewhere, it could even be that someone only has a short time to live, and as above who and how can this be enforced.
With regards to hospitals the common sense approach should have been applied by leaving a designated smoking area away from the main entrance for example so as not to infringe on other peoples fresh air, but no in this country there is no common sense any more.
[quote quote=121281]I thought this was a forum for open polite discussion. ? So my question to you Daave63 is this..
Do you take time to practise being rude or does it come naturally to you.[/quote]Ha ha just knew this was coming :)
Well, after many many years honing my rudeness it does now comes au-natural to be honest ya tit! Although I do attend the odd course or workshop run in the town – mainly in local inconvenience stores – where just standing at the till listening to staff chatting in front of you shows true Wrexham class and an expertise in the field! These of course are usually stupid women who specialise in the banal and unnecessarily telling us all about them and their boring little lives and families. I may be rude, but if you read the facts love, it all makes sense.
[quote quote=120539]Hear, hear!!!
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And again hear hear, sums it up as it is, without all the PC crap and this is almost certainly what what most people think.
[quote quote=120528]Rondetto your factual!! statement about the mess and vomit in High Street seems very wide of the mark — are we now saying the Council are paying for people to vomit and drop litter.
The Council may be responsible for the cleaning but they ceratinly are not guilty of creating it in the first place- that honour goes to our nightime revellers all of wholm a re paying to get into their drunken states in the pubs and clubs of Wrexham — should these establishments not be held responsible for evening clean up. Also why aren’t the ‘Litter Brigade’ operating at night?[/quote]
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The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.
They (our beloved council) started the new system with a different bin collection day this week, so you would think they would start the new system to coincide with what they emptied last week i.e. they emptied the black bin last week so you would think they would start with the green bin, but oh no they decided to start with the same bin they emptied last week !! ha
All my neighbors were also hoodwinked and duly put out the green bin which was not emptied.
