Matt
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You mean they sent Ken to grin in the foreground of something vaguely mediocre going on in North Wales?
[quote quote=175970]Looking at the goods on sale at the Monday market; they can all be purchased for less money and at more convenience at one of the many supermarkets and pound shops in the town. These alternatives barely existed when the market was spread across the Beast Market and later on Eagles Meadow car park in years past. The market doesn’t offer anything different to what is here six days a week. It certainly doesn’t include anything locally produced. So why bother going?[/quote]
You’ve hit the nail on the head there. This was probably also the case going back 10-15 years so there’s no reputation as a decent market worth visiting.
Yet we know there’s several local traders who sell more bespoke and custom wares when you go to the Victorian Christmas market. We can get traders in for 1 day but not the rest of the year.
[quote quote=175893]Mold was the first town in Wales to achieve the status of Cittaslow according to Wikipedia. Sounds quite nice actually. https://www.gov.uk/government/case-studies/cittaslow-uk[/quote]
Wrexham’s response to this initiative would be to approve planning for 6 new kebab shops and 3 Drive Thru Costas.
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I’ll sit back now and wait for the remainers to come back at me with all their twisted logic, bending over backwards to explain how a democratic vote taken just like any vote in the UK has been taken should not be respected and should be overturned. Yeah right.[/quote]No bending over backwards required – The reason things are reversible in a democratic society is to prevent civil wars and bloodshed – if there is no pathway for someone to become a victor through electoral and legislative means then people will take to the streets and settle the issue there. Much better for us to argue the toss here like civilised individuals than to take pitchforks and flaming torches out into Wrexham?
The referendum was advisory so that means it was up to the government at the time to take steps to implement that result. They haven’t managed to as of yet after 3 and a half years, and it still follows my line of logic from my first post that in order to mandate Brexit the Government needs a majority who believe the advisory result must be upheld and are able to legislate to push it through.
In a democracy it also makes logical sense that there is an opposition who wish to overturn such a result and if they get into power or form a coalition they have every right to put the vote to the public again or overturn it completely.
As I said we’re in very murky territory if Leave wins the referendum a second time because a large number of Remain MPs won’t respect the result still if they get re-elected. However, there has been terrible chicanery on both sides.
I voted to remain in the original vote because it made logical sense – freedom of movement for me and my family to live and work anywhere within 28 countries across Europe seems like a no brainer. I’m not scared of EU immigrants because I have several for neighbours and they’re brilliant. I’m also not afraid of EU laws because they haven’t infringed on my life a single time.
What I did see was a huge uprising in particular of English Nationalism off the back of Brexit and those of you who voted to leave in North Wales can blame the ugly side of the Leave campaign on them. I am naturally repelled to backwards and racist type behaviour – label me a snowflake or whatever but bigotry, hatred and negativity to fellow individuals regardless of their background has no place in modern society. I struggled to see past the argument of the angry chest beaters with St George flags, of Farage and his send them back poster, the delight the next morning when people on social media were bragging about rounding up and sending the Poles and Romanians back home. That’s not everyone and I understand that from the educated people I speak to here who I respectfully disagree with. There’s tosser Remainers too who think people should be discriminated and sacked for supporting Brexit – I can’t support that either – that’s voter discrimination. The highly polarised nature of the Brexit vote and near equal split down the country just means a division has been created in the country that quite simply didn’t really exist before the 2015 General Election.
If things get settled either way – we leave or we stay – hopefully that will put the matter to bed for most (I’ll accept it even if I don’t agree with it – but I’ll play the game up until the final whistle as I have every right to) and we can move past all the bullshit and get back to fixing the country. I can tell you whilst Brexit takes up all of Parliamentary and has politicians hamstrung and deified or vilified based on their views on Brexit – everything else in this country just goes to hell in a hand-basket. Every other issue becomes secondary.
The likes of the Wrexham Executive board can hide and push through crippling austerity measures that make Wrexham a second class town because people are too busy being distracted by Brexit or can use it to blame all their problems on it. We’ll come out of this tunnel either in the EU or out of the EU with very little to show for the past 3 years and it’ll take a number of years after to recover.
I don’t know why people act so surprised that a minority Government isn’t able to pass legislation through Parliament. People are just particularly sensitive to this because it’s Brexit.
The only way Brexit will go over the line is if General Election is called and a majority of no deal Brexiteers get elected in. Then we crash out of the EU.
Any other configuration will be blocked in some way shape or form by the various factions. A soft Brexit gets blocked for being a Brexit at all by Remainers and for being too soft by Brexiteers.
But if an election is called and a configuration is in play that favours remain then a People’s vote is coming.
I’m unsure what that means because if the country vote to leave again the majority of MPs who have been re-elected will still hold it up in Parliament indefinitely.
This could rightly go on for years.
In too good a mood, laughing at Boris’ house of wafer thins cards falling down around him.
Farage crying that the Benn Surrender Act is being contravened by this deal, it’s a no from the DUP on a border in the Irish Sea. Minority government to be defeated again, Brexit vote split again, Johnson to be forced to ask for an extension.
Why doesn’t someone tell me more about this Brexit they think is going to happen? Oh yeah Will of the People called to say he’s out – things took too long.
[quote quote=175614]The difference is though Matt that we already own these things. If plastic is so bad businesses should be banned from making it. As consumers the only way we can do anything is to stop buying it. Been reading about how washing clothes is adding to the problem too.[/quote]
E-waste is a major global problem – people view mobile phones and other technology as disposable and just throw them in the bin when they are done with them and something newer comes out. Even the majority of recycled phones end of not being disposed in an environmentally friendly manner.
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/recycle-cellphones-ewaste-what-happens/
If you’re going to go after kids pastimes like Halloween – then you’re going to have to go after just about everything in modern life.
Like food to stay fresh in the fridge? Plastic packaging. A drink when you’re out? Plastic packaging. Something sent to you in the post? Then there’s the amount of packaging the likes of McDonald’s produces for every single meal….
[quote quote=175595]What is the point of changing to paper straws, stopping the sale of single use plastic carrier bags when the shops are now full of plastic Halloween goods. Perhaps children should question whether they should allow parents to buy them.[/quote]
Many of us now typing all this on mobile phones or computer keyboards made of plastic – perhaps we should question whether we should allow ourselves to be typing all this?
Have a bit of class – even the Tories have given him a decent send off of well wishing. Your bitterness just shows through massively.
What have you achieved in your life in comparison – certainly not 18 years of public service to Wrexham and elected in by the people 5 times!
I might not have agreed with everything he stood for and certainly clashed with him a few times – but he’s left behind a solid legacy and he’ll be a tough MP to follow – regardless of the colour of the rosette.
He’s realised now was the right time to stand down and he’s done so magnanimously.
Well done Ian, well played sir!
[quote quote=175375]Thanks for taking my remark in one context to help beef up a point you were trying to make Matt. You’re a very naughty boy.
[/quote]Haha – consider it a compliment that you were there to provide the beef in the first place.
Interesting point you make about the parochial councillors preventing commuters – I know the ones you mean.
Then the template (the LDP) seems to be up for debate by numerous camps about whether or not it is fit for purpose in terms of providing the right mix of houses for the local area.Stakeholders being:
1) Welsh Government – want to address a national housing shortage and want to stimulate as many houses built as possible but with affordable housing requirements attached – certainly in this area and a few other areas in North East Wales
2) Individual Councillors and their Local Residents – Don’t want ANYMORE houses built in their respective local areas as they are worried it will put pressure on local infrastructure and services
3) Council Planning Board – Seem to be trying to facilitate and broker the situation by making planning permission decisions and are passing some and rejecting others, but are of course collecting flak from all other parties. Unfortunately this recent secret meeting of 4 councillors has damaged their reputation and position of impartiality.
4) Local families and people not on the property ladder – There is a vested interest for this grouping who quite simply just want to be able to move into their first home at an affordable price and therefore need affordable homes built, but this is being frustrated at every turn by other groups. Locals don’t want any houses built, the council will kowtow to the developers and try and strip affordable homes out and the developers don’t want to build them.
5) Developers – They want to build as many properties as they can to maximise their profit but also remove any affordable housing requirements. This seems to put them at odds with just about everyone else and will make them the most unpopular.
I can’t see this issue getting resolved any time soon – it’s just another ongoing saga we will no doubt be debating for a number of years. There’s been no headway made in terms of the local retail situation or schooling system so I can’t see this being any different.
