Llayunited

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  • in reply to: Travellers On Alyn Waters #64370

    Llayunited
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    @Metalhead 8768 wrote:

    @ Llayunited, is there any possibility your team could use the facilities of nearby clubs for now? Doesn’t sound as though these grounds will be suitable for playing football on for a while. You would like to think that any deliberate attempt to destroy an area of community value would be classed an act of criminal damage (surely doing doughnuts in Ford Transit vans would fall into that category) and dealt with accordingly.

    About 6 years ago we were invited by Wrexham Council to join up with Llay Welfare in a Llay Community Sports project to improve sports facilities in Llay. In practice this meant using Our name and the fact we were a children’s club with girls teams to gain grants to improve facilities at Llay Welfare with the promise that we would have equal use of the facilities. Over £100,000 in grants for a MUGA and to improve paths and to put drainage on the football and cricket pitch

    Once the work was done Llay Welfare decided that our club was of no more use to them and stopped us from using the grounds and started to charge us to use the MUGA

    They then set about setting up their own youth section, when we complained members of our committee we band from even setting foot on Llay Welfare property.

    To make it worst Wrexham Council had spent more than £10,000 to convert the village park by the Welfare which they rented from the welfare from a run down park to a junior football pitch for the use of the local youth teams. This pitch has been used about 3 times in 4 years.

    When we were told we were no longer wanted at the welfare we approached them about a long term rent for the pitch and offered the majority of the money we had in club funds. Carroll Clark did not even have the decency to reply to our request only ban our club member.

    So even though there are pitches in Llay we will not get very far

    We are nearly sorted even though some of the options open use will cost the club money.

    I am disgusted that neither the council or our local members have even contacted the club to ask if we needed any help with pitches

    in reply to: Travellers On Alyn Waters #64369

    Llayunited
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    This is the response I have had from our local councillors who passed the buck to Wrexham Council

    I am responding to your email to Clrs Boland and Taylor regarding the matter as above. First may I reassure you that the Council is taking this very seriously and is looking as a matter of urgency into the legal powers available to it to bring this occupation of the land to an end as soon as possible. However, it is not a criminal offence for the travellers to be on the site the Council is required to follow due process to seek their removal, which involves some initial assessments of the travellers on the site and the preparation of appropriate documentation. If this is not done correctly there is more chance of challenge and delay. In the meantime officers of the Council visited the site on the morning after the encroachment and made clear to the travellers that they were trespassing on Council land and are visiting the site on a daily basis to monitor the impact. I will keep you informed of developments over the next few days.

    Regards,

    Lawrence Isted
    Head of Community Wellbeing and Development/Pennaeth Lles Cymunedol a Datblygu
    Wrexham County Borough Council/Cyngor Bwrdeistref Sirol Wrecsam

    in reply to: Travellers On Alyn Waters #64368

    Llayunited
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    This was a quote from our local councillor today in the Daily Post

    Llay county councillor Terry Bolland described the situation as “unfortunate”.

    “Travellers have the same rights as everyone else and need somewhere to go”

    Sorry if they have the same rights then they should also live by the same laws

    in reply to: Travellers On Alyn Waters #64367

    Llayunited
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    Just been down to our pitches and they are being ruined by deliberate acts of vandalism.

    They are deliberately spinning cars to damage the pitches.

    Walking around the paths in the country park there is human poo and toilet paper on the paths.

    As I was walking across one of the paths one of the gypsies drive his van at me, but I did not move so he gave me a mouthful instead.

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