justjojo2011
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Not many musicians get into music for money, most do it for the love of making/playing music. It’s not about money for the serious musician. Good luck to them. Slagging off a really good idea just shows an awful lot.
There are a lot of laws, rules and regulations in place surround volunteering that are easily accessible by a good google search. However, a company cannot take a paid job away and replace that paid job with a volunteer placement.
@CerysHughes 19809 wrote:
Anyone who volunteers for a good cause is an excellent human being and deserves only credit.
A worry during this period of austerity is that some of these volunteers may be exploited by the council as being a vehicle to third sector privatisation of council facilities/services.
e.g.
The libraries becoming a trust under the premise of being a charitable trust means the council can save 70k costs of busienss ratesHowever in the future, they may say, we’can’t afford to run the libraries for as many hours as we did last year, make a few staff redundant and threaten all libraries will be shut on wednesday afternoons. Then later suggest perhaps we could run wednesday afternoons with volunteers.
This may sound far fetched, but look at some of the local community centres and one of the leisure centres, it’s already happened within the last 12 months.
A job gone in a public sector centre means another 20k lost from being recycled into Wrexham’s economy. All fine of course, if there is a plan to replace that job and more jobs in the private sector.
It was a question, not a statement so it wasn’t any type of “victimhood” thinking. This doesn’t hold Wrexham back, but would surely spur Wrexham on to want better (Wrexham is held back by it’s own people not caring but that’s a different topic).
England control us. This is a fact. They control what comes in and what goes out and our history is thick with prime examples of how England want the Welsh well and truly under their thumb.
But I notice you didn’t answer the question.
@Sheefag 19816 wrote:
This is an example of the paranoid, insular ‘VICTIMHOOD’ thinking that holds Wrexham back, it implies that there is some coordinated group of English people who spend their days looking for new ways ruin the Welsh.
In what possible way is the heavily subsidised Wales ‘under the English thumb’ and for what possible purpose? I’m genuinely curious.
Equally as worrying, is the thought of taking necessities out of Wales and into England. Is this a sign of things to come in terms of keeping Wales under the English thumb or simply a coincidence?
@CerysHughes 19794 wrote:
Will this become an election issue?
Quite worrying, this is approx 1.5 million taken out of the wrexham economy.
Also reasonably well paid jobs, the people will either have to leave for liverpool/manchester or take a huge drop in salary working in low paid jobs.
Not good as either will reduce spending power in the town and local shops.
This is after job losses in the dss, university and the council, I worry that WCBC has staked too much on the public sector and a red letter day is fast approaching.
Yes i know about the prision, but there won’t be many local jobs and many of those will be low paid.
NOw that Deggy’s has closed, the traffic flow down the road won’t be as bad now. I am assuming this is the road we’re talking about?
Not everyone works 9-5. I can understand the prospect of 24/7 for some people who work silly shifts and want to get a work out when they finish at say 3am.
@dagg 19302 wrote:
Who wants to go to a gym at 2 o’clock in the morning. I can understand people going for an hour or so after work eg afternoons and nights.
I have said before that Wrexham needs more choice. So I do agree with the number of same shops we have dotted around the town.
I couldn’t use a gym if I wanted to. None of the machinery can deal with the issues in my knees without causes further pain and unfortunately I am not in a position financially to pay for a personal trainer.
The idea of an empty unit being used, is great for the town but having the same thing lined up from when end to the other just doesn’t make sense, especially if the council want people to care about Wrexham.
@BenjaminM 19298 wrote:
No it doesn’t jojo.
If you want to make the argument of need, it is just as easy to cite charity shops, mobile phone and pound shops. I could argue that we have far too many of those too but that does not prevent their proliferation.
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why anyone would even contemplate questioning the prospect of turning a vacant property into an occupied asset for the town.
I am guessing from the tone of your post that it is not a facility you would use, but many people with varying lifestyles would find a 24 hr gym more than useful.I think perhaps you may have misread what I typed because I didn’t dictate what should or shouldn’t be built. I asked if we need more.
In regards to fat people walk round, please direct that comment to the person who mentioned it in the first place.
@JaneJ 19297 wrote:
JoJO you cant dictate to private investors were they will bud a facility — they will have done a through assessment of the market place and come up with a costed proposal that will have a target of making a profit to reinvest and make money for shareholders.
We cant attract anything new to Wrexham if all of the marketing and demographic data available to businesses does not stick up for a business model. Why invest in an area that does not meet a business profile it would make no sense.
Perhaps instead of defining ‘fat people waking around’ it should have been broader and stated ‘unhealthy’ people in Wrexham as the current data shows we are sitting in a massive time bomb of industrial illness from heavy industries such as coal and steel making starting to present itself with lung problems for the 60/79 year olds and at the other end an almost epidemic issue of children that are obese with resultant Type 2 diabetes developing. Cant see how you can be offended with this broader rational for more gyms (provided they are affordable)
