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It appears that some (possibly All) of the stall holders are being given a rent-free period due to uncompleted building work, disruption and lack of marketing for Ty Pawb.
Wonder if any of the traders prepared to give details of the deals and for how long? or Would someone from the Council give details of how much this new subsidy is now going to be paid and what budget pot it is coming from?
When you read the article on Wrexham.com about the many numbers of people supported by the Council Workops programme that is going to lose their ‘work’ due to funding cuts at the same time money is being thrown at Ty Pawb and all of the private traders as if there is an open cheque book. It is totally immoral of the Council to be acting in this way.
I went to Ty Pawb yesterday and had a good catch up with a school friend who has a stall and had one in the old Peoples Market. I thought I’d have to go get a packet of Kleenex. She was saying that the customer count is down 80% on what it was for similar period two years ago and her takings are 30% below break even (not even a profit for her working over 45 hours a week.
She is hoping the Bank Holiday may improve trade but was worried that if the weather was too nice no one would want to come to an indoor location.
Her plan is to hang on in their till the Bank Holiday at the end of the month before handing back her lease if there is no improvement as she can’t afford to use any more savings.
She said the traders are trying to get an urgent meeting with the Council Officers and Members to see if there could be a hold off period for paying rent for three months and improve the marketing and signage around town to see if things improve as she is not the only one in this position.
It is really sad that someone who set their sights on being part of a new venture is now feeling so despondent and disillusioned.May 3, 2018 at 8:04 am in reply to: Rough Sleeping Censorship on Wrexham Town Matters Group #148505
Perhaps the Council will change Ty Pawb into a homeless shelter when they realise the current offering is a financial disaster. It would be quite easy to convert the stalls into small two-bed hostel accommodation. Also, workshops for them to be engaged in activities during the day.
There just solved two of the most controversial issues in Wrexham in one simple change of use!!
The reference to a Ty Pawb website previously is a little bizarre as under no circumstances can you call a single page a website https://www.typawb.wales/. Consdering they have had at least 2 years lead in time for this to be ready on launch day there surely must be questions to be asked.
If the traders were expecting publicity for the venue as part of their ‘service charge’ they should demand an immediate venue.
A abuse with this level of investment that does not have a proper internet/social media presence is totally mystifying.
The Council could have run a competition with media students at Coleg Cambria and Glyndwr and had a proper presence on these media platforms very cheaply if it was run as a competition.
As someone mentioned in an earlier thread this place is both a commercial and community disaster. Some of the stall holders must be using personal savings to keep the shutter open and working for next to nothing (if at all)-
Sales of an average of half a dozen cups of coffee an hour (even at £2.50) won’t even generate the minimum wage as most items on the stalls are relatively low value.
The best that the stall holders can do is to collectively inform the Council that there is a collective agreement not to pay any rent until all of the basics are in place- then see what happens.
Does anyone know if all of the stalls are now taken at Ty Pawb – I have tried to get information and am not getting any response from their advertised email. I am now giving serious consideration to be going to the Plassey as they responded very quickly.
The following was sent to – email@example.com — does anyone have any other contacts for TP
I would be interested in a possible unit in Ty Pawb for a small pottery business- to ensure the equipment would work I require a 3 phase power supply for 32 amp for the kiln.
Do you have any stalls available ideally with a solid wall so that equipment can be secured?
Could you please provide me with general information on the units available and the budget costs that I would be looking at to set up a business in Ty Pawb. I am not afraid of competition that but you give details of any protected covenant that could be in a lease preventing anyone similar having space.
Jimbow – I’m glad someone has experienced the economic retail of the retail sector for craft products and the need for varied customers and not just a high footfall of regulars (assuming Ty Pawb ever get high footfall which is highly unlikely). This is basic business sense and if any of the new craft outlets have taken business advise from the Council Business Advisory Service then you need to go back and ask for a refund on the rent you are now paying.
Alunh – I think your view of having people with a kiln or actually painting in their ‘pods’ was in the original concept but seems to have disappeared out of what has been produced or artists took the decision it was not viable for them.
I’m sure that from a technical specification if someone wanted to have a kiln installed now would be told that there is not enough electrical power in any of the shop units to accommodate. Most professional kilns would operate on three phase electric and only the food outlets have this at Ty Pawb.
One of the problems with this model is that there need to be large numbers of new visitors and not just repeats who just come to look at someone working! This is the fundamental confusion on any marketing for Ty Pawb – some business units will be requiring lots of new customers as they are likely to only make one-off purchases then you have those businesses that will require repeats from the same customer base as their ideal would be at least one or two times a week.
Called in today to see if there are any events planned for the ‘theatre/studio’ space – no one seemed to know what and when anything will be on. Really poor that this information is not available now the centre is open. Nothing on Council web site either. Cant see me bothering to call in again… what a disappointment.November 12, 2017 at 10:29 am in reply to: Penycae Community Centre – Difficult Decisions Lie #140329
Nen your point about it being in the consultation document is clearly correct — but what percentage of residents will take the trouble to read it and even fewer to complete the survey that will take a good 30 minutes.
I think the point is that when there are local Councillors elected surely they have a duty to inform and communicate effectively with their electorate.
Hope it is the one that you have referred to that is proposed closure which gives a different slant on the original issueNovember 8, 2017 at 9:10 pm in reply to: What Should Wrexham Council Look For in a New Chief Executive Officer ? #140088
Thnks Ponkey nic to no mi spelcheque nt workd- made i reed twce
Mrked 2/10!! must tri betr
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