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  • in reply to: 55 New iPads For Councillors #122166


    Why should they use their own equipment for their work? Nice to see them coming into the 21st Century.

    Whereas the services seem to be heading back to the 19th. century through cut backs.

    in reply to: 55 New iPads For Councillors #122003


    The ipad 3 is not now getting Ios updates so i guess they have those but could be wrong of course. It doesn’t mean they are un-useable just wont be updated. I’m sure the council Apps. they run now will continue to run as good as they always have. It’s all rubbish. They seem to find plenty of money for schemes like this whilst unable to fund essential services properly. All those thousands could go to a much better use.

    in reply to: Wrexham Council spend £750k on consultants #121210


    I guess It’s easier for the councillors to vote for the allocation of the money for PWC to do what they themselves should do but can’t be bothered after all it’s not their money that is being squandered,
    (well, it is if they pay council tax to WCBC. but…)


    I was at an event recently where only Welsh was spoken. Just because Welsh, out of politeness, is not spoken in front of linguistically challenged Welsh people, doesn’t mean that it isn’t spoken elsewhere. Try telling people in other countries that they mustn’t speak in their own language. I disagree in bilingual everything though. People should have a choice as to which language they choose to receive their bills. A database is easy enough to set up in any business for regular recipients of literature. Place & street signs should only be in Welsh. Informational safety signs should be in Welsh & English.

    well said Zing.

    One thing people seem to ignore is the fact that it is not just Wrexham that you need to consider. I have worked throughout Wales and it is first language for a lot more people than you may think. If you think that your kids will just work solely in Wxm or as many people who knock the language think, that their kids will be working all over Europe, then fine. You may not need it ( even though many in Wxm do speak it ). If your kids will go on to work in other places in North or South Wales then they will find that they hear it a lot. For some jobs the ability to speak Welsh is esential to the post, because the public speak it as a first language. Why fight it? We are in Wales and it has two official languages. Welsh and English. Why can’t people accept that?

    Fine, if you can accept cuts to vital services when at the same time the council is spending 100’s of 1000’s of pounds on supporting a dying language a language might i add that can only be used in one country on earth and then only by a (relatively) small number of people. Why fight it? it’s dying.
    If kids are going to be taught a second language please make it a useful one.


    FACT: Welsh is in fourth place behind English, Polish and Portuguese in the languages spoken in Wrexham.

    That comment was made in a meeting by Cllr Hugh Jones and made headlines – but when checked it was not the case,

    Last week he distanced himself from those comments as well

    In the 2nd. article the words “prefer the carrot to the stick” describing how to increase Welsh speaker numbers leads me to think they have a “stick” available to them, I wonder what that is? Sounds sinister to me. Should a council member, let alone the lead member even be talking about a “stick” in this context?
    Another thing, “they” are “encouraging” the council staff to have (in an nonthreatening way!) lunch with Welsh speakers, nonthreatening eh? well good on them. Totalitarian type measures again.
    IMO.they are so far up themselves over the issue they can’t see where they are going wrong.


    No matter how much funding is thrown at trying to increase the number of Welsh speakers if there is not the will from individuals this will never happen and will be a waste of funding.
    It would appear that the only real way to make a difference would be through schools with Welsh being cumpulsory with through bilingual education.
    I believe one of the worst things that can happen is Welsh only schools — this level of segragation does nothing to encourage those from a non Welsh family background to engage. Segregation through the school system breeds a culture of seperation and not integration.

    It’s already compulsory.

    Teaching Welsh as a second language is about as useful to a pupil as an ash tray on a motorbike.
    Teach a second language yes but, Welsh? Try using that in a business meeting in Germany or France et al.
    and they will not stand a chance of being understood whereas using English or even French there would be.

    It’s all barmy, a waste of the pupil’s time and effort plus a waste of much needed money but the delusional politicians/Councillors amongst us continue to force the issue.

    If the Welsh want to keep their language alive they should, instead of compulsion, (a measure that any banana republic dictator would be proud of) try “encouraging” youngsters/adults to learn it through appeals to their Welsh nationalistic pride and if that fails then they don’t want it enough and it should be allowed to die out which, is actually, what is happening now.


    So NEN, by your comment, it would appear you are not affected by the cuts to services, lucky you, but, it shows a lamentable lack of care for those that are.
    One area of cut backs is going to be the fire service so hope you don’t have a fire as your house may be gone before the fire service arrives. On the plus side though they may apologise to you in Welsh so that’ll please you no doubt.

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