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  • in reply to: You couldn't make it up. #170042

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    [quote quote=170030]There was talk of putting up Average Speed Cameras, Who is going to pay for them to be erected and maintained?[/quote]

    The taxpayer i’d guess.

    To treat a questionable environmentally based speed limit as this the same as a safety issue and fine people £100 plus three points or even inviting them to attend an “envioronment awareness” course (one would be invented if needed) would be a travesty and would bring the Police and scamera vans into even greater disrepute than they already are and, i suspect, something the Police would realise and not want a part in.


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    [quote quote=169984]The road through Gresford is being totally resurfaced beginning at the Beeches Restausrant. The relatively little used Park Avenue road has been resurfaced from the shops. However the main Chester Road is crater ridden again from its junction with Grove Road and pot holed right through to the Gresford Roundabout. The pot holes are regularly filled with tarmac only to grow bigger in a few days when the tarmac wears always again . Does Chester Road meet the criteria or is it more to do who your local Councillor is ?[/quote]

    That’s a question we round here have been asking tbh. A road not far away was resurfaced when there were worse roads closer in to us. There is a councillor lives on that road though. We are thinking that the louder you shout the more chance of getting you’re pot holed road re-done.

    in reply to: should politicians have experience of the real world #169438

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    [quote quote=169435]hi imho
    farage is trying to appeal to working class people,but I haven’t seen his list of candidates for any parliamentary elections.The MEP candidates read like a gallery of ghouls with the likes of Annunziata Rees-Mogg(whose never done a days work in her life) and anne widicombe.
    Farage is just a tory,and rather than being the new force in british politics he claims to be,in reality he is very old establishment hat and should really be selling second hand cars to mug punters.[/quote]

    A lot of Parliament and the lords read like a gallery of ghouls tbh. Like it or not, Farage is the most succesful Politician around at the moment (iknow, i know, he’s a failed MP candidate and all that but, so are many) and has been for a long time. He brought about Brexit, the others couldn’t stop him, he devastated the other parties in the Euro elections all from a standing start. Anyway, there are multiple reasons for his success and, which are the most persuasive or not depends on your viewpoint and bias. If you are likening people who support him to “mug punters” you are just continuing many of the remain voters disgraceful behaviour of insulting anyone that disagrees with them and supports Farage and Brexit. Apologies if you aren’t a remain voter but, from your comments i can only assume you are. I try to keep my arguments and comments respectful, i wish some others would do the same as it would aid discourse and help minimise rancorous division.

    in reply to: should politicians have experience of the real world #169433

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    [quote quote=169424]This is a point of debate.Should politicians have experience of living in the real world before being allowed to take office.The House of Commons is full of soliciters, barristers, journalists and lectures,most have degrees and a substantial amount of them went to oxbridge.The vast majority are middle class professionals and a great many of them are multi-millionairs.Should we not be encouraging more working class people into the cushy little wesminister and welsh assembly love in.[/quote]

    It seems Farage and the Brexit Party have set out to recruit just the kind of people you suggest.

    in reply to: E.U Elections….who will you vote for? #168892

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    [quote quote=168879]hi IMHO,
    Technically you are right.We joined the common market in 1973,having had two failed attempts in 63 and 67.But we didn’t actually have a referendum until 1975,when the country voted in favour of remaining.We should have voted to get out way back then,as far as I am concerned Harold Wilson made a major mistake in supporting continued membership believing that he could change the EU from within and renegotiate more favourable terms(hmm how many times have we heard that one)…interesting nearly 45 years later we have corbyn trying to do the same thing,some people never learn.
    One of the most neolithic aspects of the EU was and still is the CAP(common agricultural policy) which is effectively an endless money tree for the landowning elite in the EU.[/quote]

    Totally agree.

    If there was a movement for change then and still is, 45 years later, what chance of change ever occuring as “they” still aren’t listening and, who are “they?” who owns the damn thing? “them” or us? It appears to be “them” as we have had to keep going to “them” in an attempt to enact changes over the decades. No, the people of the member states do not, in reality, own the edifice that is the EU they are subservient to it. It’s time we left it to “them” and made our own way again in the world. Being a member of the EU has sucked nearly all the confidence out of a once proud and confident nation, it has been dragged down and brought to it’s knees by an overarching EU in a away that hasn’t been possible by our enemies through many conflicts where it has always (with help, eventually) won through. The “remainers” are responsible for the mess we are in now not the “leavers” as the uncertainty caused by the prevarication not Brexit is what is killing business because (you may have noticed) we haven’t left the EU yet so things remain the same. No, it’s all down to the anti democratic MP’s that want to overturn the 2016 vote that are to blame for the whole sorry mess. To the remain voters that are thirsting for a re-run of the referendum i’d say this, be careful what you wish for, get your way and go against a democratic vote this time and you can rest assured it will happen again and, next time you may be in the other camp and crying, “but, it’s undemocratic”. What is possible once, is always possible again. Think about it.

    in reply to: E.U Elections….who will you vote for? #168867

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    [quote quote=168852]Yes it did exist in the 70’s,in fact in one form or another it had been around since the 50’s.When we voted to join back in the 70’s we voted to join a common market.Back then I just got the vote and I voted against joining.Since then the EU has become a right wing monstrosity in the pockets of the neocons and the banks,run predominantly by unelected officials.[/quote]

    We didn’t, in the 70’s, vote to join the Common Market as it was touted to us then we voted wehether or not we wanted to remain in it as we were joined up years earlier without any referendum.

    in reply to: E.U Elections….who will you vote for? #168800

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    [quote quote=168792]In fact they are absolutely loving the whole Brexit Impasse over in Europe

    Britain’s Brexit paralysis served as a “vaccine” against the Eurosceptic vote in the EU parliamentary elections, said European Council President Donald Tusk.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/eu-council-president-donald-tusk-calls-brexit-paralysis-a-vaccine-against-eurosceptic-vote-in-eu-a4153421.html[/quote]

    They would seek to put a pro europe positive spin on any result proving that they are not listening to the people who are crying out for them to stop, look and listen to the grievances that normal people have about the direction the EU is going and just say, “they are all in favour of the EU so, full steam ahead for more of it”! Politicians are absolutely not the right people to have power over other people as they abuse that power constantly and are always convinced they are right.

    in reply to: E.U Elections….who will you vote for? #168787

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    What is a “people’s vote” when it isn’t just another referendum? It’s a trick the voters who didn’t get their own way in the first referendum are using in an attempt to disguise the true meaning which is, of course, “we want a re-run of the 2016 referendum because we didn’t like the result of that one and want to try to overturn it”. It’s akin to calling “speed cameras” “safety cameras” in an attempt to make them seem more acceptable when, at the end of the day “speed cameras” describe them well enough. I would go along with another referendum if it did not include the remain option instead, asking whether we leave with the current deal or no deal as whether we actually leave or not was decided in 2016. To the remain voters saying we were hoodwinked into a leave vote in 2016 by lies i would say, we are lied to at every general election in one way or another as whichever party gets in does not ever carry out what it says it will in it’s manifesto so, where are the demands for re-runs then? No, it’s all just very sad that we are slowly being pushed towards an attempt to overturn a democratic vote to leave the EU which has happened to just about every vote any EU member country has taken that the EU hasn’t liked where it has been either re-run and overturned or just ignored/worked round. Not a good record for what is touted as a democratic organisation.

    in reply to: E.U Elections….who will you vote for? #168502

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    [quote quote=168475]

    How can anyone vote for a party led by that clown Nigel Farage? Oh wait, we’re talking about the same people who voted to leave the EU.[/quote

    I believe its a free country, you cast your vote for who ever you want.[/quote]

    Indeed it is.

    I have the notion that because the pro remain voters have been so damned insulting and rude to the pro leave voters that they will have actually hardened opinions in that, a leaver that may have changed their mind will have felt so insulted and aggrieved at the leavers disgraceful behaviour towards them they will have dug in and thought, you know what, you lot can go swing i’m not changing. It’s human nature you see.

    in reply to: E.U Elections….who will you vote for? #168501

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    [quote quote=168478]

    How can anyone vote for a party led by that clown Nigel Farage? Oh wait, we’re talking about the same people who voted to leave the EU.

    Exactly! We’re supposed go be voting for our representative in Europe. Someone to stand up for us, fight for us, secure vital EU funding that Wales massively relies on in the absence of funding from Westminster (which will never be replaced should we leave).
    And yet people are actively voting against that for party of riffs who couldn’t care less about us. The mind boggles[/quote]

    How do you think we will get funding from an organisation we are no longer paying into or members of?

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