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  • in reply to: Wrexham Council #136791

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    churches opening their doors sounds admirable but would you like to be the caretaker or warden cleaning up the mess each day, and the cost to churches to replace the damage they would inevitably do.

    But churches are supposedly brimming with Christian charity. Maybe they could get volunteers from homeless / drug charities to perform the clean up / repairs of the church after the druggies have spent a night there.
    I have no expectation that ‘the church’ will do anything significant (I think one had some sort of coffee and a chat event during the day a few months ago) – only that they COULD do something but choose not to. I have a spare room; I too COULD do something but choose not to – but I am not a church espousing Christian values / charity. The fact is that churches are unused space during the night and churches would clearly rather keep it that way than provide a refuge for people who would otherwise have to sleep outside in all manner of weather conditions.

    in reply to: Wrexham Council #136736

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    A few years ago I would have felt much sympathy for Wrexham’s homeless. But since living very near to 3 properties inhabited by drug addicts, I find it hard to sympathise with them. It took months to get one evicted and I ended up off work sick and moving to get away from the others (one of whom was not evicted for another 18 months – and another was still there and still a problem). And this was despite there being residents from 13 nearby properties all reporting what these druggies were doing.

    From a purely selfish perspective, I’m quite happy for the camp to remain at the Groves – simply because it is nowhere near me.

    I’d also be quite happy with a drug ghetto – as long as I didn’t have to live near to it, of course. The drug charities could all be located there too, in close proximity to their service users, and the ghetto’s centrepiece could be a magnificent gleaming ‘fix room’.

    As for likening Wrexham’s ‘homeless’ people with those from Grenfell Tower; I think that’s appalling. Grenfell survivors lost their homes, all of their possessions – and in many cases their loved ones – in a truly horrendous and terrifying event that was no fault of their own.

    Wrexham’s homeless are generally drug addicts, who in many cases lost their homes not because of their addictions per se, but because of their anti-social behaviour and the adverse effects this had on neighbouring homes and families. Many of them already had the kind of accommodation that we are encouraged to believe would help them turn their lives around – and didn’t even have to pay for it because they were entitled to housing benefit. They want us to treat them well while they continue to treat the rest of us like shit. Until you have lived next to it for an extended period of time and seen all the help they are offered whilst they have not the slightest consideration for anyone else, you could not appreciate how awful it is.

    I don’t understand why the churches aren’t opening their doors for them to sleep in at night – it wouldn’t cost churches any extra, it’s unused space at night, Christian charity and so on. It’s as if even the churches sense that these aren’t the kind of people you want to have come and stay over …

    It’s probably high time we had another petition from Phil Wynn.

    in reply to: Wrexham Council #136500

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    I think there still seems to be a myth on some of the threads about Wrexham attracting more homeless and addicts due to services being here. The current profile of those at the Groves and elsewhere is that about 85% have a local connection.

    I’m not suggesting addicts move here in their droves from all over the country, but that addicts from relatively nearby towns and villages will congregate here because the services that either help them or make excuses for them (depending on your view) are in Wrexham. e.g. Nen mentioned people coming from Rhyl; I would also suggest places like Ruabon, Llangollen. Oswestry, etc. The services are largely concentrated around the Rhosddu and Grosvenor Road areas. I don’t think that people living in these areas will ever be free of this problem. I don’t live in the Rhosddu or Grosvenor Road areas, but I do visit them and it’s clear that the problem is worse there than in most other areas of Wrexham.

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    in reply to: Wrexham Council #136434

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    Went to Queens square this morning it was unbelievably intimidating they were everywhere swearing, arguing with each other etc. something has to be done, the town is struggling without all this, it will be a no go area soon and setting up camps for them in the groves school is just going to encourage more to come.

    I don’t think this problem will ever leave Wrexham now. Even if all of the current addicts in Wrexham recovered and got rehomed, more would take their place – simply because this is where the service providers are. Why would addicts go somewhere where there are no agencies to feed them and sympathise with them, when they could come here? And now they have a camp right across the road from The Wallich.

    in reply to: Wrexham Council #136362

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    Why is this encampment not prohibited under the PSPO? (I just posted this but then my post just disappeared!)

    in reply to: Wrexham Council #136361

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    Why is this encampment not prohibited under the PSPO?

    in reply to: Theresa May's 'visit to Wrexham' #134480

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    You spat your dummy out like a crying child because you weren’t on the invite list to the event and have slagged it off ever since.

    Ordinary members of the public weren’t on the guest list either. She was in this area during the election campaign on at least 2 occasions. She claimed to prefer getting out to meet the people rather than engage in TV debates. She did this to herself.

    in reply to: Theresa May's 'visit to Wrexham' #134433

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    It seems that wrexham.com may have just finally nailed their colours to the mast.

    … especially as you don’t bother hiding your bias anymore!

    I don’t understand this. Would you rather they hid their bias?

    in reply to: Names for the new Arts Hub #134320

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    I find it hard to care about what the new name will be – but if I had to suggest a name it would be Dafydd.

    WTF are you on about bubble? Dafydd! Dafydd! -”but if I had to suggest a name it would be Dafydd.” What are you on man? Dafydd!! The Dafydd Arts Hub!! Shite!

    OK. Point taken. Dafydd is an unsuitable name.
    What about Rhodri?

    in reply to: Names for the new Arts Hub #134265

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    I find it hard to care about what the new name will be – but if I had to suggest a name it would be Dafydd.

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