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There’s no money in it for Kingdom that’s why. They aren’t interested in preventing littering. Like any private company, they only care about making a profit, which is why they will usually only attempt to fine easier targets such as the elderly or lone women…and the sort of people they think will fall for their empty threats of calling for police backup for refusal to give details. A friend witnessed an exchange on High Street 2 months ago between a young lad and a Kingdom officer.
Kingdom….What’s your name?
Kingdom….I’ll phone the police and get them to take your details
Lad….Go on then.
Kingdom then gave up and walked off. This is why they are unlikely to attempt to fine the louts and junkies as theres no profit in it.
If anyone feels that they have been unfairly targeted by Kingdom and needs advice, please feel free to join the North Wales Against Kingdom Security group on Facebook, there are already 7000 member’s.
- This reply was modified 1 week, 5 days ago by Borras81.
Over 6000 members of the North Wales against Kingdom Security Facebook group now. Take note councillors Pritchard and Bithell.
If anyone has been unfairly targeted by Kingdom then please join the North Wales against Kingdom Security group on Facebook. No one is condoning deliberate littering but Kingdom are getting out of hand now. They also should not be operating on private land, such as supermarket car parks and retail parks. They tried to find one lady on Island Green retail park because her toddler had accidentally dropped a sweet wrapper, which she hadn’t even noticed until they came running after her…does that really warrant a fine? Yet on one occasion, when it was pointed out to them that there was a group of lads across the road outside Lloyd’s who were smoking and throwing their stumps down on the floor, they said they couldn’t attempt to fine then for “safety reasons”
I think you’ll find that Kingdom make a tidy profit for themselves and the council get about 11% out of the fines levied.
I wonder what they charge when a zombie does a poo in the street?
Kingdom have got no more powers than the milkman,thats why they won’t patrol town at night targeting people who drop their takeaways etc. They only go for soft daytime targets.
Stagecoach are operating the C56 at the moment
Arriva are now operating service 35
Still no news about service 35 Borras Park and Plas Goulbourne?
Does anyone know who is taking over the 35 route to Borras Park and Plas Goulbourne?
That’s exactly what it is, an extortion racket. Kingdom keep a certain percentage of any fines issued for themselves. They also have a bonus scheme whereby their officers earn more money if they issue a certain amount of fines each day. This is another reason why they only pick on soft targets, because they know that they are more likely to hand over their details, thus allowing them to issue a fine which in turn keeps them in a job.
They are not allowed to issue tickets on private land, that is why the management at Eagles Meadow has banned them from operating on their land. They only try and fine easy targets,such as elderly people or lone women who have accidentally dropped a receipt from their pockets, but they won’t dare approach lads standing outside the pubs on High Street deliberately throwing litter. They are a private security firm and you ARE NOT OBLIGED to give them your details.
If Kingdom approach you to issue a fine then firstly, politely tell no and walk away.
Secondly, try to walk into a shop or onto private land, as they are not allowed to follow you onto private land to try to issue FPN notices.
Thirdly, do not be afraid of their threats to call the police for refusing to give your details as the police WILL NOT attend. This is because it is a civil matter and the only role the police would have if they were to attend would
be to prevent breach of the peace. Seeing as the police won’t even come out to investigate burglary these days, they certainly won’t be interested in attending to prevent breach of the peace over an accidentally dropped bit of litter. Also, even if the police did attend, they can not pass your details over to Kingdom Security, as this would be a breach of data protection.
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