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BenjaminMParticipantI look forward with alacrity to your posts Alun, not because I consider you to be infallible, more really to see which patronising phrase or sentence you come up with – usually directed towards me.
Your reference to the Texas model when used in relation to the ‘model’ (?) proposed by Wxm, is quite frankly, erroneous. (Yes, I can Google too)!
Indeed, the analogy of the garage owner in relation to Councils and Council employees is bordering on being fatuous.
Irrespective of the assistance you are attempting to afford, the fact remains that the questions I posed have not been answered.
Although the post in question is ‘crystal clear’ to you, I find it less so. Perhaps that has something to do with my inferior cerebral capabilities. Mind you, it would be strange if were we all gifted, wouldn’t it?
BenjaminMParticipantOr indeed, Black (and blue) cabs and taxis using Duke St as a rat run from King St, instead of using Trinity St as traffic signs require. Or maybe High St as another convenient short cut. Or yet another example, the Police vehicle positioned outside the old Marks and Spencer shop on an almost daily basis.
BenjaminMParticipantWxm, you quote me in your last post, as if you were about to address the questions posed in my submission.
Once again, you have singularly failed to do so and gone off on yet another irrelevant tangent.
I ask again:-
1. Where (in your opinion) does the conflict of interest lie? Councillors or Officers?
2. How you arrive at the conclusion that there should be a decrease in the number of Officers and yet, at the same time infer that there there needs to be another tier within the system to undertake a scrutiny role.
3. And finally, how can both your totally contradictory statement have credence?In the interests of clarity, a non prevaricating response would be appreciated.
BenjaminMParticipantWxm, I must confess, you never cease to amaze with your perverse logic.
Yesterday, (your 7.42 post) you stated that…… Less decision making officers are required….because of your assertion that Councillors now have a ‘hands on’ role.
Today, if I read you correctly, you are advocating yet another tier is introduced to monitor the output and cost effectiveness of the Officers implementation of policy. Where do you consider the conflict of interest arises? With Officers or with Councillors?
Let me once again remind you as you have patently not read the relevant section of WCBC’s constitution. SCRUTINY COMMITTEES exist for ALL the areas of responsibility of the Council, made up of cross party membership.
I await with bated breath for you to explain to all readers of these forums, as to how you seem to be able to arrive at two diametrically opposed opinions within the space of 24 hours and as to who you advocate should undertake the scrutiny role.
BenjaminMParticipantYou just don’t get it do you?
BenjaminMParticipantWxm, some suggested reading for you:
WCBC Constitution- Overview and Scrutiny-Council Staff- Part 1-2.I think you will find that it clearly demonstrates that there is a comprehensive procedure in existence that EXACTLY defines roles within the organisation for effective management, scrutiny and implementation of policy.
Do other organisation have Councillors or are they run by a Board of Directors? And is it not the responsibility of both to decide on policy for implementation by others? I think you will find that their roles are very similar.
To put it simply: Councillors set policy and ensure adherence. Officers implement.
I honestly cannot understand what point you are trying to make.
It was a difficult post to assimilate, made even more so by superfluous use of inappropriate question marks.March 5, 2014 at 10:05 pm in reply to: Rhosnessni and Clywedog Schools in Special Measures may have new style Governors #66850
BenjaminMParticipantNo need for apologies Alun. I treat your ripostes with levity and actually look forward to reading them.
No, I do not save comments to recycle them. I am lucky to be able to remember what I read (and write). Perhaps that is down to having been fortunate to have received a grammar school education.
Looking forward to the next exchange on whatever subject our views digress!
Regards! :-)March 5, 2014 at 8:24 pm in reply to: Rhosnessni and Clywedog Schools in Special Measures may have new style Governors #66849
BenjaminMParticipantIndividual students need to be exposed long term to those subjects and skill levels that they are best equipped to deal with. Exposing 30-40 students in a mixed ability class to the same subjects taught at the same tempo and using the same language mode is near criminal in its proportions.
How does this square with the statement made by you on a previous thread, and I quote –
“We were always told in teaching to assume that everyone was as thick as pigs poo ……so eventually the penny would drop if it was repeated”Doesn’t it indicate that by using that method, even in a grammar school where you taught, the teaching level was pitched at the lowest common denominator? Isn’t that what mixed ability learning is about?
Why is now akin to being criminal in proportion?
BenjaminMParticipantCouldn’t agree more Adam.
For the proposed location to be a feasible option, it would be necessary for the Police to enforce the ‘no entry except for blue badges and loading and unloading’ to High St which is flouted all day, every day.
Or could it be that the proposed location fits in nicely with the premises of some of the members of the Town Centre Forum?
As far as the footnote to the article published regarding a sculpture trail, whilst I am in favour of thinking outside of the box, is this really receiving serious consideration?
Perhaps I could make a suggestion of my own. What about a pound shop, charity shop and mobile phone shop trail? I bet that that would be more in keeping with the image that Wrexham portrays.
BenjaminMParticipant@wxm 12030 wrote:
The reduction in central funding to Councils started some time ago in England, and has only just started in Wales?
I think you should tell Eric Pickles that because it doesn’t reflect what he was quoted as saying on this morning’s BBC web site.
Quite the opposite actually.And please, could you explain the 2nd paragraph as I can’t make head nor tail of it, even with its’ unnecessary question mark.
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