BenjaminM
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@Alunh 12744 wrote:
Fascinating psychology in play here. I think you’ll find this is called ‘transference’.
That’s lovely Alun, thank you.
Looking up to me as your patriarchal confessor!
I am really touched.
Any time I can help just call.There you go again, telling me that I have used the word ‘allegedly’ incorrectly in my recent post. To remove all ambiguity from the equation, that word was used advisedly in the context of the post. You do not have the right tell me what to write- you are not marking class work now. This is the grown up world!
I have met many people from all walks of life who have had many years in their chosen field, but sadly, that does not make them experts in that field. Granted, it does give them a right to express a VIEWPOINT, but it does not grant them immunity from having their viewpoint challenged rather than being accepted as gospel.
As I have stated previously, I have no intention of entering into a contest with you to see who has the blackest cat, but you should really make an effort to stop talking down to people and make your pitch at a level appropriate to the the audience. Readers and contributors to this site are intelligent enough to understand the nuances of the written word and intelligent enough choose what to believe. It is not a given that you are the definitive article in the topics you mention, irrespective of your experiences.
A little humility can work wonders.It stops now Alun!
However hard you try to goad me into a p*****g contest! you will not succeed.
You have on numerous occasions dispensed your alleged wisdom on topics ranging from education, markets, business acumen and entrepreneurship to finally trying to educate (more often than not), me on the democratic process.
Realise Alun, people do not rely solely on you as the fount of all knowledge and the patronising attitude you adopt is ill becoming.
You would be well advised to dispense with the attitude that you are dealing with people who know nothing (as per your stance on teaching children), and realise that the posts on this forum are from an adult population who have the ability to think for themselves and form an opinion without your patronising interjections.
Post nominals cut no ice with me I’m afraid and your attempts to belittle do little to enhance your credibility.@wrexview 12726 wrote:
“Councillors were told that a contracts register would be adapted and potentially made accessible to members.”
Only potentially accessible to Councillors! Councillors are our elected representatives and should have access to everything held by the Council. Who made the decision that such information should be with held from them ?
Assuming the reportage on this site regarding today’s meeting is reasonably accurate, would you please point me in the right direction for me to read for myself where it states that’ such information should be withheld from Councillors’?
And whilst on the subject, should ‘adapted’ read adopted and by 2014/15 read during 2014/15 or by 2015/16?
Just for the sake of clarity. Wouldn’t want to argue over incorrect information, would we?
Furthermore, if Councillors are our elected representatives, ie there to represent the views of their ward, why is general consultation needed in the first place?Yes Alun, I fully understand that it is a legal obligation for Councils and utilities to provide communications bilingually (both written and oral) because of the Welsh Language Act and I am sure you can guess which side of the fence I am on that one.
Regarding consultation in other languages, you are correct, it is not a statutory obligation but in the interests of inclusion and in an attempt to assist in the formation of a cohesive society, it is, shall I say, advisable.
I lived in a Spanish speaking Country for a number of years and although I was able to understand the basics, in no way can I say that I mastered the language sufficiently for all eventualities.
I think it very probable that the majority of British when abroad, think that they are able to speak in a foreign language by using a raised voice and adding an ‘a’ to every word.
To expect all to ‘adapt to the language and laws of our country’, yes, I agree to the laws, but language is a different matter and can only occur over a period of time. It doesn’t just happen when a plane lands in Liverpool or a boat arrives in Dover. I wouldn’t mind betting that some of the people who have that expectation would be lost in a foreign country if they weren’t visiting it on an ‘all inclusive’ basis.Well well, we seem to have two prospective UKIP members on this thread!
The ethnic minorities that form part of the makeup of the residents of the WCBC area have the same right to be consulted as any other person resident here and I would welcome their input.
It has been stated twice that no money should be spent on consulting in other languages and essentially, unless they speak English or Welsh, they should be disenfranchised from the process of consultation.
If the figure of 10% is to be considered accurate as a representation of population who do not speak either English or Welsh as a first language, why, when only 12.3% of of the population consider themselves Welsh fluent, is it necessary to provide bilingual communication (Welsh/English) 100% of the time?.
Ethnic minorities have a right to be here and a right for inclusion in the democratic process. Not my statement, but the law.Whilst I sympathise with the fact that some patients are subject to lengthy delays before commencement of treatment, the sensationalisation of headline statistics says nothing about the urgency of the procedure that the patient is referred for.
Granted, the patient wishes to be seen at the earliest possible opportunity, but as time passes by, additional patients are referred, whose condition may be in need of more urgent attention, so slippage is almost inevitable.
Hospital admissions, where there is an urgent need for treatment, is to the best of my knowledge, functioning to a high degree.
The main delays occur in the A&E departments because most certainly, people attend there as a first port of call, rather than taking the most appropriate route for treatment.
I remember some time ago referring to the ‘pyramid of treatment’ on one of these threads which starts at the base with self medication, consulting the local pharmacist, the help line etc, etc with A&E being at the pinnacle of the triangle ie as the last resort. Posters to this affect are located in surgeries, pharmacies etc but people take no notice of them, hence overfull emergency departments with ensuing lengthy delays.
So rather than instigating a ‘positive debate, in public as a community’ the answer to a major part of the problem is for each of us, as individuals, to ask ourselves “do I really need to attend A&E or is there a more appropriate option open to me?” I am even further convinced that the introduction of a charge for what are essentially, time wasters would see a decline in the number of ambulances having to queue to offload patients who actually do require the services of medical staff.“Harnessing the competencies of doctors and nurses?” What ARE you on about?
Are you implying that they are not pulling their weight and the fault lies with them? I sincerely hope not.
The real problem stems from insufficient funding to Health Boards from the Welsh Assembly as the BMA and the Royal College of Nursing have highlighted on occasions too numerous to mention. If they as a collective are unable to influence the decisions of the unnecessary Welsh Assembly, what on earth do you expect to achieve by debating the issue on this forum?
Probably the same influence that was made on WCBC by the incessant monologues, sorry, debates, that were made when WCBC were setting the Council Tax for 2014/15.
Perhaps we should boycott the facilities until conditions improve. Yes, that would show them we mean business!@wxm 12552 wrote:
And you’re happy to pay all that without a quibble and believe its value for money !?!
And just when I thought it was safe for us all to go back into the water!
I would have thought ( and dearly hoped) that now the Council Tax has been set for 2014/15, we would be spared (for at least 6 months), the interminable posts and endless columns of figures regarding ‘value for money’. My dog loves a bone, but at least it has the good sense to leave it when he has pulled all the meat from it.
It’s a done deal – get over it!!!!
With regard to Dylan’s comment regarding where the money has been allocated and is to be spent, there is a link quite clearly indicated on the bill, to facilitate those who have a yearning for such matters, to fill their boots. I would have thought that the majority of us are more interested in the bottom line, ie how much we have to pay.
Huff and puff all you want, but realise this, you won’t change a thing, but you are very likely to raise your blood pressure to a dangerous level.
