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[quote quote=142272]I have no problem with proposals to get rid off some if not ALL PSCO’s, really do not see what they bring to the table. A sticking plaster on a gaping wound, won’t miss the powerless individuals or seeing them strolling around not wearing their full uniforms, chatting away to each other, and giving the impression they dont give a damn, just a job.[/quote]
There’s a lot of allegations there.
Do you even have an understanding of what their role is or what they do? If you did, I doubt you’d post such drivel.
Strolling around not wearing full uniform – please expand what you mean by this. Are they not meant to walk around? What do you mean they aren’t in full uniform?
Chatting away to each other? Surely you can’t have an issue with people talking to each other?
Giving the impression… – This is your perception. My perception, and likely the perception of others is that they do a VERY good job.Clearly you’ve got a chip on your shoulder about the Police as evidenced by your posts on here. You never, however, provide possible solutions for you complaints, nor do you offer your time or expertise to improve policing in our community.
Don’t forget, “the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.”
Needle exchanges are available at:
Wrexham CDAT, Swn-y-Coed, Grove Road, Wrexham, LL11 1DY
AND
Detox Unit, Hafan Wen, Watery Road, Wrexham, LL13 7NQThe number to call to report needles is:
Pride in Our Streets (street Scene) – 01978 298989
OR
email them on [email protected]
OR complete the online form at https://www.wrexham.gov.uk/english/env_services/service_requests/syringes.cfmNeedles can also be disposed of at any GPs or pharmacy.
How anyone can say there’s no way to report it, or there’s no needle exchange is beyond me, and simply strikes me as apathy from some of the general public, for which we have a strong representative sample of the apathetic population right here on this forum.
If you want to see fewer needles in public spaces, you need to report it and support the ‘authorities’ in keeping the county clean. The problem isn’t with the ‘authorities’ (as you can see above) to fix, as there’s plenty of opportunity for exchange or disposal, it lies with the users. Clearly the users don’t give a fig, it’s therefore up to the public to report any needles that they spot.
Want to propose any other solutions?
[quote quote=140357]…I’ve seen discarded needles and not reported them. I don’t feel it is my responsibility to report them. …Some needles will be discarded in parks where children play.[/quote]
You appear to be part of the problem. How do you expect the “authorities” to act if they don’t know what or where the problem is. Surely any right minded person would, if they saw something dangerous (especially to children as you put it), report it to allow it to be sorted?
Whose responsibility is it to report something that YOU’VE seen?
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Residents are not responsible for preventing and detecting crime, that’s the responsibility of the police. That’s what we pay our taxes for, we shouldn’t be relying on a vigilante public force.
[/quote]I disagree. Peelian Principles are quite clear in the Public’s involvement in “policing” their communities:
Principle No. 3 states: “To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.”
Principle No.7 states: “…the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.”
Crime is never the fault of the Police nor the victims, it is ALWAYS the fault of those committing crime, whether that is due to poor upbringing, compulsive behaviour or the lack of public and/or state intervention.
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And get those pcs hiding in the speed camera van out doing some proper detective work.
[/quote]They aren’t PCs. They are Civilian Police Staff. They are out helping reduce deaths and serious injuries on our roads. That can never be a bad thing to do.
Next he/she will be complaining that all the police do is hand out speeding fines to pay for the Christmas party.
[quote quote=123406]Sure there is a need for policing the area from 2000 ft in a helicopter, the essential role that aspect of policing has not escaped me. However, I feel this should be a support function to ground forces.[/quote]
It is. They support officers on the ground by providing area searches, aerial viewpoint for incident/event management, and tracking of vehicles and offenders.
[quote quote=123406]A few recent high profile incidents have clearly indicated that, “special highly trained officers” are on hand should a serious need arise, but there is a serious lack of police officers patroling our streets. [/quote]
Specially trained officers are used when specials skills are required. I see no issue with that.
With regards to “serious lack of police officers patroling[sic] our streets”, you should write to your MP and Theresa May. Police forces have been decimated by year on year budget cuts. Please look here:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-34899060
When you talk of police “patroling”[sic] our streets, are you talking about foot patrol? In this day and age, the “bobby on the beat” is impractical and ineffective. Would you rather have half of the officers on shift be on foot and not be able to respond to incidents which are more than a few hundred metres away?
[quote quote=123406]I have I am afraid little credence for part time police, and feel they should either take their roles more serious and stop tweeting that they have policed the entire area and informing us that all is well. [/quote]
What do you mean by “part time police”? Are you referring to PCSOs? If so, they are full time and perform a vital role in helping to police communities and reach out to the public by remaining available in in-touch. Part of this is using social media, which is an efficient and effective way of reaching out to the public. What would you prefer, an ad in the local rag, perhaps a poster on a lamp post?
[quote quote=123406]They stole past my home on a regular basis with more make on that Boots counter, head phones in, usually around 14.00 hrs, hardly the peak time for crime to be committed in the burbs. [/quote]
Those “head phones” will be their radio earpieces.
What is the issue with taking pride in appearance and wearing make-up?
What is the “peak time” for crime? Perhaps a position in the crime reduction senior management team for NWP would be the right thing for you.
[quote quote=123406]They fail to move youths on when these “gangs” hang out near shops , turning the air blue with disgusting language. [/quote]
What powers or law allow PCSOs or Police Officers to move people on?
[quote quote=123406]They are powerless to do anything to stop the boy racers burning up our streets, how many road traffic incidents of late involving young boy races losing control of their vehicles. I dont know what the law stipulates with regards noise levels, but an awful lot of these cars must exceed acceptable noise levels as well as speeds. [/quote]
Vehicles are seized and drivers ticketed on a regular basis for antisocial vehicle use. If you doubt this, please send an FOI request to NWP for the figures.
[quote quote=123406]While perhaps not a police matter, take a stroll down our High Street, it is now apparently acceptable to allow your goods to spill out all over the pedestrianised streets, no does or says a thing …. the foxes are running the hen house.[/quote]
Write to the council.
@moggsie 18397 wrote:
p.s. I must be blind or maybe colour blind…I see no cross hatching as yet.
It is Northbound at the second set of lights.
@moggsie 17736 wrote:
…and lasts for sure until 09:30. No idea after that. It “appears” to be worse now than before the new arrangement.
It does appear that way, however, the timings on the traffic lights aren’t ideal as they are only a temporary arrangement.
I’ve noticed the hatched markings catching many people out too. People moving into the hatching will cause a lot of problems for those coming from the Rossett direction.
