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July 16, 2018 at 8:55 pm in reply to: Welsh Medium Secondary Education and the Groves School #152983
Interesting reference to Oswestry and Llangollen from Peterthewatcher. Amazing how much cost burden parents will shoulder if they think it worth while.
Zinger’s point about Wrexham’s two “super-schools” is also worth pondering on. If you check out the pattern on the numbers front, there was a rapid decline on numbers in both schools and this may be now irreversible. Now you might think that this reflects on the standard of the school but most of us appreciate that the decline has got more to do with parental concerns about the behavioural patterns of a minority of the pupils in both schools, behaviour that has ebbed and flowed according to the ability of each school to keep trouble in check. What amplifies the behavioural patterns is the past willingness to have mixed ability classes across a range of subjects so that each “super-school” has a large number of classes occupied by able students and less able (side by side), motivated and less motivated (side by side). Whilst I am sure some bright spark on here can make a philosophical case for this state of affairs, any teacher working in this environment will tell you through their tears of despair how tough it is.
Anyway, I digress. The escapees from the bog-standard comps want educating and apparently many of them now see the Welsh medium school as a viable alternative, the non-sexual equivalent of a friend with benefits. Can I make a plea Welsh Assembly/WCBC. Either sort out the post-11 education or…if neither of you have the balls or ability to do it…..at least get the kids into the Groves courtesy of the Welsh medium…..and kill two birds with one stoneJuly 16, 2018 at 1:37 pm in reply to: Welsh Medium Secondary Education and the Groves School #152961
There is a need to have a really deep discussion at WCBC level about Secondary Education and Matt is correct…..it is a passion of mine.
I quite understand the observation made by Peterthewatcher and an in-depth probe may discover that the demand in the borough for Welsh medium education might actually veil a hidden demand for a better education than currently on show in Rhosnesni or the rest. I don’t actually have the stats but the exit from the town of swathes of youngsters to Penley, Darlan and even Bishop Heber and Castell Alun does suggest something amiss.
Of course, if there is no intention to have a deep look at this matter, no intention to work out why Wales (and Labour therein) fails to follow England (and Labour therein), we are, as they say, where we are. Given that we are. Does that mean even though the Maths dictate the use of the Groves, even though Borras hasn’t the infrastructure for more Primary, even though there is a shortage of Welsh medium capacity……..that we still won’t use the Groves. Essentially…..are we going to leave the place to rot even though we actually could use it?
Totally agree with BenjaminM.
A TIC is supposed to be that place that maps out for any visitors where the attractions are as well as informs the rest of us about upcoming events. Most TICs also offer a range of others services including ticket selling and trip organisation. The Wrexham TIC needs a total overhaul but it should be located at an obvious point of entry to the town centre
My presumption is that May, an instinctive Remainer but who has the responsibility of delivering Brexit, will pitch an offer to the EU that it will probably reject. The offer will be a product of an agreement that just about retains Cabinet unity and is probably similar to what Labour would ask for (with the same internal difficulties).
If rejection now occurs, then the Government has two choices, one being to leave with no deal (and they are now preparing for this), the other being to resign. If they don’t resign en bloc and try to pitch a compromise offer, either the Remainers or the Leavers will exit the Government.
Conclusion. No need to march up and down the streets folks. Let nature take its course. There is a very big fan waiting for a very big pile of poo to hit it (and not off my step either)
Quite like the idea that people should make their views on Brexit clear. Good on ’em if they want to give up time to march up and down the streets calling for a referendum result to be abandoned. Best of luck with that one.
Referendums are rarely called in Britain because they do take away the deliberative element of a question. They’re black or white, yes or no, in or out. I voted out because I don’t like the EU. I didn’t like the Soviet Union either and both seem to have similar traits…..too much power at the centre…too much bureaucracy. That said, if the Referendum had gone the other way, fine. Grin and bear it.
The useful fools who are being encouraged to march against a democratic decision are an arrogant bunch. Apparently if you voted out you’re a thicko. No one who get referenced as much as me could possibly be a thicko (?) though I can kind of get the gammon reference. I trust that the real thing rather than a mere reference has helped Matt get his jollies tonight but if not…..come and watch the “enlightened” marching when they do
Llangollen is an interesting case and shows what can happen if the preponderance of shops are small and the planners don’t try to facilitate the import of big units. We went to Market Drayton the other week and that seems similar. Wrexham seemed to bend over backwards to develop big units at one time and most towns that systematically go down that road end up being classified by the New Economics Foundation as ‘clone’ towns. It would appear to be the ‘clones’ that are really under pressure because it is the ‘individual’ shops that are surviving at a greater rate, the ones that are local and offering personal service.
Small shops or, to be honest, small units, have to be the way forward because it is they that offer the small scale entrepreneur of any description to grow a business. Many of these, as the featured report indicate, will be Crafts or Arts linked or may feature many of the new service offers which are breaking out all over. Good examples of these include coffee shops, beauticians, hair dressers, chiropodists, nail technicians, potters, and the like.
The problem with these reports…..and there are many of them…..is that people read them and conclude that the tumbleweed is coming. Doom and Gloom. What they are generally saying is that there are huge factors in play that are creating the potential for Doom and Gloom but that things can be done early on to prevent Doom and Gloom being the way of it. Clearly, towns will never be what they were in the 1960s-1980s, but they still have a future if the Ostriches take their heads out of their rear portions. Quite clearly, if the shopper and tourist wants to shop conveniently in 2018, then designing towns which make access either difficult or expensive is a tumbleweed policy. Quite clearly, if shopping for the bland brand product is shifting on-line exponentially (which it is) but that people still want to rummage through interesting Independent shops (which they do), then it is towns like Kendal that will avoid the tumbleweed. They are encouraging the planners to look at only allowing small shop units to be built and encouraging large units to be sub-divided. This will allow micro-businesses to emerge.
There are loads of Reports that outline lists of simple things that towns can do today to improve their position and a useful starting point is the Manchester Metropolitan University Reports on towns. Perhaps if the Welsh Assembly and WCBC can get together and work on some of the simple and not so simple stuff, the tumbleweed might be avoided
Just noticed…Maureen Gray has a point…….some gobble-de-gook above. Should have said that the real debate should be less about the site and more about why oh why Wrexham can’t sustain more than 2 schools.
Problem for you Matt is that the state of the schools in the town is very much a product of Labour policy (though successive Councils haven’t helped). The Welsh Assembly operate a different set of rules to those used by English Labour before 2010 and non-differentiated Comps are insisted upon. No choice acceptable. Hardly surprisingly, parents of all shades try to calculate what choice they do actually have and opt for perceived catchment area. Hence, whilst any school drawing primarily off a large estate loses out, other schools drawing off rural villages gain Penley VS Rhosnesni. Check out the patterns. Crazy
About time Laour Wales had a debate a BIG debate
Don’t give me too many ideas Sheefag…after all I am a retailer. Perhaps you could bottle the shadow from your pearls of wisdom for marketing as well. Must be a small fortune waiting there……
It’s called English Maureen……remember in school your English as a 3rd language classes
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