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  • #172057

    Llayby lilly
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    This has to be one of the craziest ‘solutions’ to a social problem- taking away two benches when there are at least 8 others less than 30 yards away.
    Hw can taking away two benches be part of a solution when they can sit on the other benches, sall flower bed walls or take up residence on the steps of the closed RBS Bank.
    When will the Council and others come up with some real solutions that are effective and stainable.
    This is just a piece of socil engineering by trying to shift a problem into another part of town.

    D.J. – Excellent point, but your forgetting the proximity of the benches that have been removed from the rear entrance of the WCBC Contact Centre….you see this is the entrance all the council officers based within Lord Street etc use to go in and out of the building. They don’t use the front entrance like we do. So in reality, the people making the decisions are not happy to walk past the riff raff, holding their noses. But there quite happy for the rest of the good people of Wrexham to have to put up with the rogues! You couldn’t make it up.

    I for one support Matt for Sheriff. LOL
    Lilly

    #172106
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
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    Do remember the Wrexham.com article where one Facebooker published a post stating that spikes had been installed on park benches in Wrexham to ‘prevent homeless people sleeping on them allegedly’.

    it would have been better than removing the benches and the man watching CCTV could activate them when he see some unruly types. Better still give the job to Sheriff Matt because he knows all about being a pain in the arse (only joking Matt we love you!)

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #172365

    WreX-iT
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    Who needs benches when you have McDonalds windows to lean against!

    What next? Remove McDonalds windows?
    It is the same problem but they moved it further into the town centre.

    • This reply was modified 2 months, 1 week ago by  WreX-iT.
    #172369

    WreX-iT
    Participant

    Good job we still have a task force to deal with this sh1t and don’t have to resort in ripping up benches as our main response to zombies ..

    HANG ON!!!!!

    A “gold” group of police, health and other officials set up as an emergency response was disbanded in April.

    At least Ian is fighting to get it back ain’t he?

    MP Ian Lucas praised their “positive work” but a council boss said the group was never meant to be permanent.

    PANIC OVER

    He (Wrexham council’s deputy leader Hugh Jones) promised the MP would “continue to be briefed on these matters as they progress”.

    Great I can get on the blower and tell me old Nan that she can come back and shop in Wrexham now because all the bad ones have nowhere to sit. I hope Nan don’t need a seat!!!!

    #172371

    Matt
    Participant

    Isn’t the main way to design out crime in an area to actually remove the criminals themselves?

    Or were they suggesting that certain features of the town make ordinary everyday folks resort in a massive crime spree?

    As if people have been coming across rocket launchers just lying about Grand Theft Auto style and gone on a rampage.

    Police on the actual streets is the only way to get rid of the persistent set of nuisances.

    #172419

    DerekJackson
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    Perhaps the answer is a one-way trip on an Arriva bus out of the county or started doing something, it is not as if these people are hard to find.
    Every morning – Waterstones door 2/3 ; In the doorway around the corner from Specsavers 3/4, the doorway of the shop next to The Works in Regent Street 2/5 , doorway next to Lord Street CoOp 1/2 nearly every day of the week – these are supplemented by the cohort from the Night Shelter and their own homes ready for another day on the street. They certinly are not invisible of ‘hard to reach’…

    #174557

    bubble
    Participant

    Did they remove the benches? Was this supposed to be in the pedestrianised area near the Co-Op and Cats Protection shop? Or somewhere else?

    #174558

    DerekJackson
    Participant

    The benches removed were the ones on the Egerton St corner next to the travel agent – by the British Heart Foundation shop – next to the door that Council staff use to get into the Contact Centre

    #174562

    bubble
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    The benches removed were the ones on the Egerton St corner next to the travel agent – by the British Heart Foundation shop – next to the door that Council staff use to get into the Contact Centre

    Thanks, Derek. I honestly have not noticed that anything has changed!

    #174569
    Rondetto
    Rondetto
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    I’ve just walked past the garden of rest in Rhosddu and there are six druggies there well out of it, injecting too. Just yards away from the childrens park and playground on the opposite side of the road. There are never any pco’s around.

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