Wrexham Getting ‘Super Prison’

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  • #58301

    Born Acorn
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    Unless there is some fundamental flaw the planning department finds, certainly any rejected application would just be amended and amended until it goes through?

    And if it is rejected without proper cause they would probably appeal, and if that fails, they’d appeal to the WAG.

    I’d be surprised if it isn’t a done deal, even if the timescale is not.

    #58374

    Metalhead
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    As imagined, it does look as though there are quite a few unhappy about this proposed development.

    The Leader – News from Wrexham & Flintshire – Tempers frayed at meeting over Wrexham jail

    Found the bits about building it to Cat B standards and the Ministry of justice programme manager stating that he ”could not rule out the possibility of it being upgraded to category B at a later date” concerning. Looks to me like Wrexham is getting this thing because nowhere else wanted it and the MOJ are just going to drip feed us what is really going on over the next couple of years.

    #58304

    Mike Davies
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    I notice some people seem to be blaming the Ministry of Justice. The M of J need to build prisons and will build them where there is least resistance. The problem is our local Council inviting the prison here with open arms. I recall discussing this several years ago with various councillors who were 100% behind the proposals. Trust me, this prison will be built and will eventually become a Cat B.

    #58260

    Rob
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    With the backdrop of Oakwood – the Wrexham Prison could be privately run

    Private Running Of Wrexham Prison Still On Cards | Wrexham.com

    #58375

    Metalhead
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    @rob 9709 wrote:

    With the backdrop of Oakwood – the Wrexham Prison could be privately run

    Private Running Of Wrexham Prison Still On Cards | Wrexham.com

    Well it certainly looks as though G4S are doing a sterling job there…

    Prisoners at G4S-run HMP Oakwood Get Drugs

    ”Juliet Lyon, director of the Prison Reform Trust, said: “Slashing prison budgets while warehousing ever greater numbers overseen by largely inexperienced staff has come at a dangerous cost.”

    “This prison is not a model for the future but a warning.”

    Went to the MotoGP race at Silverstone this year and G4S were running the security at that event. We spotted one guard texting while his mate was chatting to him, we walked straight past the pair of them into an area none of us had a pass for.

    #58356

    wxm
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    This possibility has been in the public domain for years? We now have to get on with it, and as a community, embrace this prison within the scope of our own individual, and community, values.

    #58376

    Metalhead
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    @wxm 9773 wrote:

    This possibility has been in the public domain for years? We now have to get on with it, and as a community, embrace this prison within the scope of our own individual, and community, values.

    …or those of us still not convinced that this is a positive thing for our town can reserve our judgement until this thing is here. Then when any issues arise we can smugly post on here that we told you so! :D

    #58357

    wxm
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    The choice of being home to a prison has passed, and we now have one. The challenge is how we face up to it. If we are not prepared, it will take up precious resources in local health, and other public service attention that should be focused on the community.

    Also, it is not in our culture to manage the presence of a prison, and the messages it gives out to the market place of consumers and inward investors. If the community is to benefit from this, it must be prepared now. Being smug about it all is a natural reaction, but it won’t help future Wrexham generations, and it won’t help our elderly people get support as they age.

    With forecasts suggesting the population will rise from 135,000 people, to 153,000 people in the not to distant future … we have a lot to do

    #58392

    dewi73
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    The Wrexham Leader has commented that its always supported the prison bid (page 8, big leader).

    Surely a local ‘rag’ should be for the whole community and not just be writing articles for its own political gains?
    The Leader has done a great job keeping local people from becoming outraged. Pro prison propaganda I call it, well done

    #58393

    dewi73
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