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  • #125498

    Council Watcher
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    Rob reading your article about the FOI and the Council member and officer reaction is a disgrace on their side= the Council Members and leading officers must have been on ducking and diving courses as they rarely give straight answers and when someone questions them they try and change the focus onto the questioner being a trouble maker. The way they have had meetings in darkened rooms make decisions and then still don’t tell the traders till the last minute is unbelievable.
    With this kind of attitude then surely it is starting to look like a project that is doomed. Have you been able to find anything about when they are forming a Trust- if this is still the way forward? I am sure if they select the Board members they will be people who they know won’t ask questions.

    #125500

    wrexview
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    It is worrying that the Council were not on top of health and safety in the People’s Market either.

    #125571

    LW4Groves
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    In order to give viewers the whole picture it is important that issues are viewed from all angles. I am very pleased that the Executive Board is being questioned simply because it gives us a broader picture of what is really happening behind closed doors. The leaders of our current council tend to obfuscated details of various important decisions. In my opinion the concept of an open and transparent government in Wrexham is largely ignored.

    Thanks Rob, keep looking at the whole picture. The town of Wrexham thanks you for it.

    #125591

    wrexview
    Participant

    “The Legal Officer pointed out the minutes are not meant to be a full meeting report, rather give a reasonable overview of the meeting.”

    When you have a Legal Officer making remarks like the one above, taken from the Executive Board today, you get an insight into how Wrexham Council operates. In a few months we will have a new Council , hopefully one of the first things they will do is make sure all meetings, including so called “workshops” are accurately minuted with a “full record ” of what is said and decisions taken.

    #125593

    BenjaminM
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    ONCE AGAIN wrexham you have rushed your fingers to the keyboard without actually engaging any other part of your anatomy.
    The Legal Ofiicer is perfectly correct in his definition of what minutes should contain. It is a summary, recording the most important features and decisions of the meeting. Minutes are never meant to be florid or poetic, or indeed record every conversation that takes place during a meeting – they are to record the salient points.
    I look forward to reading your posts, they put a smile on my face and help me realise that some people know even less than me.

    #125597

    MP1953
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    BenjaminM

    I think Cymrodor is correct in that from another thread :- It can’t be that you’re actually a councillor yourself scared of losing your cosy little side earner to someone with their feet firmly on the ground and willing and able to do a better job for less?

    as you are constantly backing up what the council do on most occasions !!!

    The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.

    #125603

    BenjaminM
    Participant

    BenjaminM

    I think Cymrodor is correct in that from another thread :- It can’t be that you’re actually a councillor yourself scared of losing your cosy little side earner to someone with their feet firmly on the ground and willing and able to do a better job for less?

    as you are constantly backing up what the council do on most occasions !!!

    MP 1953. For clarification and the elimination of doubt, I am not and never have been a LA Councillor.
    Now that is out of the way, I have been critical of the Council (specifically Councillors) on many occasions, but in the interest of fairness, I will not hesitate to comment on ill founded, ill informed comments that display unequivocally, a complete lack of understanding of the subject matter.
    In this particular instance, wrexview’s comments were particularly inaccurate and displayed a total lack of understanding of what minutes are and for.
    My knowledge base extends somewhat further than what I am spoon fed by Wrexham.com and am not prone to making ill informed conjecture purporting it to be fact. I include you also within that category.

    #125678

    MP1953
    Participant

    BenjaminM

    I think Cymrodor is correct in that from another thread :- It can’t be that you’re actually a councillor yourself scared of losing your cosy little side earner to someone with their feet firmly on the ground and willing and able to do a better job for less?

    as you are constantly backing up what the council do on most occasions !!!

    MP 1953. For clarification and the elimination of doubt, I am not and never have been a LA Councillor.
    Now that is out of the way, I have been critical of the Council (specifically Councillors) on many occasions, but in the interest of fairness, I will not hesitate to comment on ill founded, ill informed comments that display unequivocally, a complete lack of understanding of the subject matter.
    In this particular instance, wrexview’s comments were particularly inaccurate and displayed a total lack of understanding of what minutes are and for.
    My knowledge base extends somewhat further than what I am spoon fed by Wrexham.com and am not prone to making ill informed conjecture purporting it to be fact. I include you also within that category.

    BenjaminM There are only one or two on this forum that elude to the fact that they are always right. I include you within that category :)

    The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is.

    #125679

    wrexview
    Participant

    Just for information if you look at some of the old Council Minutes they were far more detailed than now, they included such items as the actual monthly income from the car parks and the payments received from the outdoor market.Such information now would be called “commercially sensitive” and only included in the annual accounts which list large sums of money under broad categories. We will need to be extra careful this year not to miss the dates of when the public can view the accounts , missed it last year as they changed it from the usual dates.

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