Who do Brexit supporters vote for in Wrexham?

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  • #176434

    Rex Ham
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    I read this morning that our Nige has run the white flag up the pole before the battle even commences!!

    #176461

    Matt
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    Wimbury is pro-EU to the max
    Where do I stand on Brexit?

    #176462

    Interested
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    I encourage everyone to watch Tories at War Channel 4 dispatches. Jaw dropping

    #176634

    Llayby lilly
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    If Nigel puts up a Brexit Party candidate in Wrexham then I will vote for them. If not the Tory’s will get my vote. Lets get Brexit-Done…!

    #176640

    Matt
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    Nathan Gill is the candidate that Brexit Party are fielding in Wrexham.

    #176668

    zinger
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    A vote for the Brexit party is a vote to delay leaving the EU as they won’t agree a deal, any deal. Parliament won’t allow no-deal & so we continue going round & round in circles.

    #176670

    WreX-iT
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    A vote for the Brexit party is a vote to delay leaving the EU as they won’t agree a deal, any deal. Parliament won’t allow no-deal & so we continue going round & round in circles.

    So do you suggest I vote Tory? It’s them or no vote then

    #176678

    Matt
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    A vote for the Brexit party is a vote to delay leaving the EU as they won’t agree a deal, any deal. Parliament won’t allow no-deal & so we continue going round & round in circles.

    This is technically not true – the PREVIOUS Parliament won’t allow no-deal. There are currently no standing MPs – so whether or not any kind of deal or a no deal would be permitted depends entirely on who is voted in and what the Parliamentary arithmetic is -based on how these 4 groupings would behave:

    1) MPs who want Boris’ deal
    2) MPs who want No Deal
    3) MPs who want a Labour re-negotiated deal
    4) MPs who want to remain

    Looking at the way Boris was behaving last night on that video being widely circulated – not even having a clue how his current deal works in terms of customs declarations between GB and Northern Ireland – contradicting his own Government. Then I can’t see how Boris is even wanting to push through that deal.

    Boris and Dominic Cummings end game is to actually crash out with a no deal after the current unworkable deal gets defeated by Parliament. This deal was never negotiated to be a workable solution, it was always negotiated on a tactical basis, so Boris has some meat and substance for this Election to say he’s getting Brexit done after being blocked from the no deal position.

    What’s even more interesting is that the more moderate MPs from both the Tories and Labour who would perhaps have voted for a Johnson deal for the sake of a progressive democratic progress are all standing down. The candidates being selected for the Tories are all looking to be hardcore ERG group types – Atherton is one of them. More likely to favour a Hard Brexit – which leans towards No Deal. Labour candidates being selected are either hardcore Remainers like Wimbury or hardcore Corbyn socialists who would never vote for a Tory deal but would opt for a Labour deal or a people’s vote.

    So as far as I’m concerned a cross for the Brexit Party or a cross for the Tories would both push you over the line towards a No Deal Brexit. But everything is even more polarised from the 2 main parties – as all the moderates and centrists from the party are vanishing.

    SNP are odds on to take a clean sweep of Scotland, because they are gunning to remain in Europe at all costs, even if it means another Indy Vote.

    However, the centrists are on shaky ground putting forth alliances in key marginal seats – Green, Lib Dems and Plaid as they risk alienating loyal voters of certain parties by trying to consolidate their voter-base.

    Lib Dems as remainer in Chief party could frustrate both Labour and Tory seats, but they seem to be gunning more for Tory seats.

    Then you do have a vote split risk between Brexit Parties and Tories if you want Brexit – particularly in Wrexham. But if either of the 2 candidates Gill or Atherton were returned for Wrexham, they’d stack in favour of the type of Brexit most on here have discussed want.

    As it stands – anything other than an outright Majority for the Tories or an alliance between Tories/Brexit party that posts an overall majority spells bad news for Brexit in the short term.

    If Labour form any kind of coalition whatsoever (firmly looking at SNP as main partners) then we go to the people’s vote and quite frankly we reset back to June 2016 as far as the process is concerned. But then we get the decision over Soft Brexit or Remain.

    Quite frankly politics is a pain in the backside really. I’d like this country to get back on track with dealing with non-Brexit related issues again – one way or another.

    #176712

    Matt
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    Interesting that no Gill now. Wonder if Brexit Party will field another candidate or step aside for Tories.

    #176715

    zinger
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    Was it something I said?

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