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  • #96740
    Rob
    Rob
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    Arson has already been asked about earlier and has had an answer, but several people have been asking variations on the topic. James (a different one) asks: “Why is it North Wales police can catch a speeding driver doing 33 in a 30 but cannot catch the arsonists that is currently terrorising the town? Is it because they won’t make any money from it? And why is more not being done to catch them?”

    Lorraine also asked about catching those responsible for arson, with Carl being blunter asking “When u gonna get of yr arses n catch the people responsible for all the fires”.

    The overall questions from several people appear to enquire if it is a priority, and asking what is the difficulties in catching those responsible. Would it be fair to say it frustrates the police as much as the public?

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    #96741

    Insp Paul Wycherley
    Participant

    Mark colourfully asked about restraining methods used by police, to paraphrase he said it can be assault if he placed a hand on a policeman yet a policeman ‘can kick, punch, bend ya arms ways that’s not possible’ and ‘we don’t get that option to call it assault’. The question (I guess) is what is the difference?

    Police officers can use whatever force they deem necessary and proportionate in the circumstances. If an officer uses force they have to be certain that they only acted within these very tight parameters. If a comnplaint is made about an officer using excessive force then that matter is investigated thoroughly. If it is found at Court that an officer used too much force in the circumstances then that is assault.

    I do hope that answers your question.
    Paul Wycherley.

    #96742
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    Stephen submitted several questions with a common theme indicating a certain scepticism on police and policing. Enquiring why police are ‘unpleasant’, ‘why do you arrest people for pointless crimes’ and finally posing a question of “Why do you think I don’t like you ?”

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    #96743
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    Bruce sets up a potentially good answer by asking: “How frustrating is it for you trying to do your job and uphold the law when you are constantly harassed and obstructed by barrack-room lawyers ?””

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    #96744

    Insp Paul Wycherley
    Participant

    Arson has already been asked about earlier and has had an answer, but several people have been asking variations on the topic. James (a different one) asks: “Why is it North Wales police can catch a speeding driver doing 33 in a 30 but cannot catch the arsonists that is currently terrorising the town? Is it because they won’t make any money from it? And why is more not being done to catch them?”

    Lorraine also asked about catching those responsible for arson, with Carl being blunter asking “When u gonna get of yr arses n catch the people responsible for all the fires”.

    The overall questions from several people appear to enquire if it is a priority, and asking what is the difficulties in catching those responsible. Would it be fair to say it frustrates the police as much as the public?

    Speeding always comes up in these forums. We (local police) DO NOT receive the money that comes from speeding fines. That money goes straight to central Government. With regard to success with arsonists we have made arrests recently for offences which happened some months ago but I accept progress is slow. This is a crime type which is really difficult to detect as forensic evidence is often destroyed. Here in Wrexham, CID are now investigating these offences so that is a sign that we are taking these occurrences very seriously and using as much resource as possible to detect and prevent.

    Paul Wycherley.

    #96745

    Insp Paul Wycherley
    Participant

    Bruce sets up a potentially good answer by asking: “How frustrating is it for you trying to do your job and uphold the law when you are constantly harassed and obstructed by barrack-room lawyers ?””

    Great question! Prior to doing this job I was a custody sergeant and used to enjoy the banter with defence solicitors. In fairness if you know your job (I hope i did) you can always come to the right decision. At the end of the day the law is the law and there are rules governing, for example, detainees detention. If you know the rules and the law and apply them you can’t go wrong no matter who the lawyer is.

    Paul Wycherley.

    #96746
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    Jake said: “How come when I had stones, eggs and dunno what else thrown at me when on a motorbike on a 50 limit road by gypsy’s followed a police car down told them showed her my bike and everything yet nothing at all was done about it and I was pretty much mocked by them it was VERY LUCKY! I had my visor down and late at night that could’ve ended up really bad for me cause well coming off your bike or plowing into somthing cause I can’t see at 50mph ain’t going to end too well for me is it yet NOTHING AT ALL was done about it just made to feel stupid by the two police women I spoke too. And there’s CCTV there too… So you gathering evidence of it wouldn’t be too hard”

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    #96747

    Insp Paul Wycherley
    Participant

    Jake said: “How come when I had stones, eggs and dunno what else thrown at me when on a motorbike on a 50 limit road by gypsy’s followed a police car down told them showed her my bike and everything yet nothing at all was done about it and I was pretty much mocked by them it was VERY LUCKY! I had my visor down and late at night that could’ve ended up really bad for me cause well coming off your bike or plowing into somthing cause I can’t see at 50mph ain’t going to end too well for me is it yet NOTHING AT ALL was done about it just made to feel stupid by the two police women I spoke too. And there’s CCTV there too… So you gathering evidence of it wouldn’t be too hard”

    Jake I am not familiar with this specific incident, but as a motorbiker myself I understand the dangers you are referring to.
    that are is covered by Wrexham rural (I cover the town) but if you call me on 101 I will have a look into that incident to see what was done.
    Paul Wycherely.

    #96748
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    L asks “Do you have any update on when you are starting to build in Llay and knock down the tower? Wasnt this meant to start in August?”

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    #96749
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    Darryl (yeah that one!) asks “Over the last few weeks there have been an increase in patrols in the Hightown area – has there been a notable reduction in crime and incidents in that area since the increase of patrols? And has this had a knock on impact on crime in the surrounding areas?”

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