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  • #66489

    zinger
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    @wrexham PC Repairs 11532 wrote:

    The new roofs and solar panels will eventually pay for themselves over time and then make a profit for WCBC.

    Seems to me that it will take a long time to pay for itself at £1m per year if a £60m loan was obtained to pay for them.

    #66474
    Chris
    Chris
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    Even if they do eventully pay for themselves how much money has been wasted by putting the cart before the horse. Enough to cover cost of keeping libraries open for a year.

    #66480

    Adam
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    @michellecook 11525 wrote:

    When we had our solar panels put up, it took them 6 months to come and flick the switch. Still doesn’t seem to make any difference to amount of electricity we are using.

    So you mean to say you’re not saving £75-£250 per year as the council originally claimed? :)

    Let’s just hope that the inverters last around the upper end of their expected lifespan range.. The cost of replacing 3000 inverters would probably be around the same as building a new leisure complex in the town centre…

    I’d love to have been in on the meeting when they were discussing the project..

    Scenario #1 “No other council in the UK has undertaken such a large social housing solar scheme. Hmm, what have we missed?”

    Scenario #2 “No other council in the UK has undertaken such a large social housing solar scheme. Jeez we’re smart!”

    #66523

    Metalhead
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    This makes pretty interesting reading:

    How long do solar electric PV panels last? | CAT Information Service

    Also the Solar Calculator shows the areas of the UK which receive good amounts of solar radiation……and it ain’t around these parts!

    #66513

    wxm
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    It is frightening to see the number of failings that are being discussed in these forums …why do they not appear as heavily debated items in the reports and minutes of WCBC?

    An area is defined by its leadership, and Wrexham is to the world the place that WCBC makes it through its behaviour and policies.

    Having read and contributed to these forums for a year now, it is shocking that we don’t appear to be looking forward as a town, and the only debate or leadership from the Council is ‘cuts’.

    Industry had to completely recast its plans in 2008, and Wrexham surely needs to start with a blank canvass, and plan to operate in a very different way. Other local authorities throughout the UK are achieving this!

    While concentration is being focused on solar panels, prisons, selling public land for shopping centres …the proper economy is not getting attention. And if such a narrow focus is being applied there, it is probably true of education and social care. WCBC needs to change its game, and start to debate transparently in its public meetings, how to change its ways from past mistakes, and how to do things differently and with more prosperity for the future.

    Closing one library simply takes away a comfortable place for local people, perhaps those who are retired and paid for those libraries in the first place. It’s a real society we want, not short term interventions that create headlines but die off after a few years.

    #66506

    johnhoppy
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    Hmm…a return of £1M per annum on an investment of £60M which is about 1.6%. Assuming that WMBC had to borrow the money for this project I very much doubt if it would have been at or below that rate. A high price to give the impression that they are ‘green’.

    #66479

    NJones
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    @adam 11540 wrote:

    So you mean to say you’re not saving £75-£250 per year as the council originally claimed? :)

    Let’s just hope that the inverters last around the upper end of their expected lifespan range.. The cost of replacing 3000 inverters would probably be around the same as building a new leisure complex in the town centre…

    I’d love to have been in on the meeting when they were discussing the project..

    Scenario #1 “No other council in the UK has undertaken such a large social housing solar scheme. Hmm, what have we missed?”

    Scenario #2 “No other council in the UK has undertaken such a large social housing solar scheme. Jeez we’re smart!”

    Anyone would think there was large solar panel factory in the area!

    #66478

    @njones 11547 wrote:

    Anyone would think there was large solar panel factory in the area!

    Not for much longer though.

    #66530

    Ferret
    Participant

    @wxm 11543 wrote:

    It is frightening to see the number of failings that are being discussed in these forums …why do they not appear as heavily debated items in the reports and minutes of WCBC?

    An area is defined by its leadership, and Wrexham is to the world the place that WCBC makes it through its behaviour and policies.

    Having read and contributed to these forums for a year now, it is shocking that we don’t appear to be looking forward as a town, and the only debate or leadership from the Council is ‘cuts’.

    Industry had to completely recast its plans in 2008, and Wrexham surely needs to start with a blank canvass, and plan to operate in a very different way. Other local authorities throughout the UK are achieving this!

    While concentration is being focused on solar panels, prisons, selling public land for shopping centres …the proper economy is not getting attention. And if such a narrow focus is being applied there, it is probably true of education and social care. WCBC needs to change its game, and start to debate transparently in its public meetings, how to change its ways from past mistakes, and how to do things differently and with more prosperity for the future.

    Closing one library simply takes away a comfortable place for local people, perhaps those who are retired and paid for those libraries in the first place. It’s a real society we want, not short term interventions that create headlines but die off after a few years.

    Not sure what your point is TBH

    #66500

    BenjaminM
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    @ferret 11587 wrote:

    Not sure what your point is TBH

    Not sure anybody else does either!

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