February 12, 2015 at 5:19 pm #54887
Worth a read of the report going to scrutiny – “The Masterplan team are currently gathering evidence and engaging with stakeholders with a view to developing a preferred strategy for the whole town centre by the end of March 2014. The Masterplan will be the subject of public consultation in the summer and will be brought to the Board for adoption around October 2015.”
Is anyone aware of local evidence gathering and engagement to solicit views to what to use the massive town centre site for?February 12, 2015 at 5:52 pm #72275
“Brought to the Board for adoption around October 2015” …. Are we to assume that means or rejection???? The mess and waste of money already demonstrated, should be a caution and advise a pause not a rushing headlong into another mess created by ‘the knowlegeable advisors’ Hmph…. I also wonder who will be carrying out the condition assessment of the existing Waterworld building.February 12, 2015 at 6:06 pm #72272
It is strange they talk about the work being carried out in the Master Plan by Consultants– this is contract number one– have they not already carried this work out – also Manchester Metropolitan University doing work and another more recent one to do with Business in the Community. How joined up is all of this work!!
It is no surprise that a new Waterworld is affordable — would Welsh Government give Wrexham Council funding or a loan; highly unlikely– would anyone lend any money to a Council that clearly has no future due to mergers — clearly the success of Splashmagic is now a problem for the Council (how many Councilors and officers were hoping that this would have died a death by now) and Total Fitness to reopen (I hope Clr Hugh Jones will report on why the discussions with Coleg Cambria, Glyndwr and others did not progress to a costed Business Plan 2 years ago when they met).February 12, 2015 at 6:23 pm #72262
Now it might well be in the Council’s own interest to apply for listed building status for Waterworld. If the building was listed the doors would open to a variety of potential funding streams all the way from the Welsh Government to Europe. Look out for it to be rolled out to a charitable Trust!February 12, 2015 at 6:28 pm #72269
If the building is in such a poor state of repair (Council view based on previous consultants report) who on earth would want to be on the Board of a Trust with such a massive financial liability– anyone offering to be on such a Trust would clearly have no sense!!February 12, 2015 at 7:12 pm #72263
The Council has not neglected the building as it has undergone a couple of refurbishments over the years. It might well be in a better condition than was painted when they were wishing to demolish it!February 12, 2015 at 7:12 pm #72264
You mean like plasmadocFebruary 12, 2015 at 7:34 pm #72261
Interesting point on the facebook page by Steve Hale “Total Fitness about to invest in their new major sports and recreation facility close by” – you can’t include that in the plan, not everyone can afford £35+ a month and it can’t take the volume of children that want to swim in school holidays etc.”
It will be interesting to see what gets mentioned in scrutiny on this.February 12, 2015 at 7:36 pm #72273
Perhaps now they cant afford a new one then the structural survey they have had in the past that recommended demolish will miraculously change to one that says it can be saved. Remember the report that said Plas Madc had t be demolished because it didn’t comply with Disability Discrimination Act as it didn’t have a lift yet there are been one there for over 15 years. Perhaps the Council repair fairies have waved a magic wand and the building can now be kept open.February 12, 2015 at 8:18 pm #72276
It has a lift, yes but only to one side of the building. There are other areas which are definitely not accessible to those who have mobility issues. The lift was put in to ensure that members of the public could access the main facilities but completely ignored any disabled staff who may wish to work there.
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