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  • #110837

    PhilWynn
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    I think it is somewhat naughty to suggest volunteers are to take over from Council Workers, as the Cean Up Days are run to compliment the good work carried out by WCBC Streetscene staff.

    I don’t see anything wrong in taking a pride in the appearance of your own town. Other town’s like nearby Mold have been doing the same for years.

    Andrew Atkinson’s background is in the cleaning industry so his input on the Clean Up Days has always been welcome. Our MP Ian Lucas Has also rolled up his sleeves at these events, so it is very much a team effort.

    Cllr Phil Wynn

    #110839
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
    Participant

    I can help you!
    Good old Andrew, not just there for the nasty things in life ……

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #110840

    Nen
    Participant

    It’s disgusting that volunteers have to do things that is a basic requirement of the Council – I.e. Keeping our town clean. I hope we’re getting a reduction in our Council tax accordingly.

    And they can’t say they’ve got no money given they are squandering thousands on posh new kitchens and bathrooms for council tenants!

    I also think it’s wrong that we have to rely on charity for end-of-life care (I.e. Nightingale House) – surely dignity at the end of our life should be provided for by the State.

    #110844
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
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    It’s disgusting that volunteers have to do things that is a basic requirement of the Council – I.e. Keeping our town clean. I hope we’re getting a reduction in our Council tax accordingly.

    And they can’t say they’ve got no money given they are squandering thousands on posh new kitchens and bathrooms for council tenants!

    I also think it’s wrong that we have to rely on charity for end-of-life care (I.e. Nightingale House) – surely dignity at the end of our life should be provided for by the State.

    Point 1. – The Council has no money so why not let Andrew, Ian and their lot help out! Its not as if they are doing it for any other reason apart from their love of the Town.
    Point 2. – Is not squandering its a statutory requirement as the Welsh Housing Quality Standard requires all social landlords (like Wrexham Council) to improve their housing stock to an acceptable level by 2020.
    Point 3. – Agreed! What do we pay our NI Contributions for? They should support us in life and death. Not quite sure why you are making this point here though ………

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #110851

    Nen
    Participant

    It’s disgusting that volunteers have to do things that is a basic requirement of the Council – I.e. Keeping our town clean. I hope we’re getting a reduction in our Council tax accordingly.

    And they can’t say they’ve got no money given they are squandering thousands on posh new kitchens and bathrooms for council tenants!

    I also think it’s wrong that we have to rely on charity for end-of-life care (I.e. Nightingale House) – surely dignity at the end of our life should be provided for by the State.

    Point 1. – The Council has no money so why not let Andrew, Ian and their lot help out! Its not as if they are doing it for any other reason apart from their love of the Town.
    Point 2. – Is not squandering its a statutory requirement as the Welsh Housing Quality Standard requires all social landlords (like Wrexham Council) to improve their housing stock to an acceptable level by 2020.
    Point 3. – Agreed! What do we pay our NI Contributions for? They should support us in life and death. Not quite sure why you are making this point here though ………

    Point 1 – Fair point but I just think it encourages the Council to let things get so bad that volunteers have to step in

    Point 2 – I know but the Wrexham.com article had a quote from a resident saying how it was great that you can choose your colours and how great the showers were – this is not a show house!! Yes, meet the legal minimum requirement but the cheapest way possible e.g. Get the same standard colour (White is always the cheapest) and the basic shower. Or repair existing units rather than fit new. Beggars cannot be choosers!

    Point 3 – I raise it here because it is on the same theme – the public sector relying inappropriately on the “third / voluntary sector” for basic public services.

    #110854
    Councillor X
    Councillor X
    Participant

    Nen, I nod in agreement! Problem is that it is going to get worse (I would love to add “before it gets better” but hand on heart cannot)

    Councillor X

    PS I wonder if the quoted resident was on benefits and having their rent and Council Tax Paid? Cake and eating it springs to mind!

    A hero is someone who understands the responsibility that comes with his freedom.

    #110856
    Daave63
    Daave63
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    Nen said : Point 2 – I know but the Wrexham.com article had a quote from a resident saying how it was great that you can choose your colours and how great the showers were – this is not a show house!! Yes, meet the legal minimum requirement but the cheapest way possible e.g. Get the same standard colour (White is always the cheapest) and the basic shower. Or repair existing units rather than fit new. Beggars cannot be choosers!

    You are a cheeky fecker Nen! I pay full rent and full council tax on my Council House and I am on no benefits whatsoever!! I love and treat my house as if I owned it, keeping it clean and tidy [inside & out] – just because some people pay a big mortgage doesn’t mean they are better!

    #110858

    99DylanJones
    Participant

    Who says the Council have no money — the Council!
    The Leader of the Council was stating that Wrexham needed to save £15m in 2016/17 at the end of last year and is still saying the same – this is despite the settlement from the Welsh Government being a lot better an now only aprox £5.5 million is required to be saved but still cutting the extra £10m of services- where is this going –oh yes £1.5m is going for the ill thought out Arts Hub (very limited number of residents will take advantage). What other bonkers schemes are they lining up the £8.5m for?

    #110859

    Nen
    Participant

    Nen said : Point 2 – I know but the Wrexham.com article had a quote from a resident saying how it was great that you can choose your colours and how great the showers were – this is not a show house!! Yes, meet the legal minimum requirement but the cheapest way possible e.g. Get the same standard colour (White is always the cheapest) and the basic shower. Or repair existing units rather than fit new. Beggars cannot be choosers!

    You are a cheeky fecker Nen! I pay full rent and full council tax on my Council House and I am on no benefits whatsoever!! I love and treat my house as if I owned it, keeping it clean and tidy [inside & out] – just because some people pay a big mortgage doesn’t mean they are better!

    I appreciate that you may be paying rent but it is not at a market rate so it’s effectively subsidised by the rest of us, therefore I don’t think they should be fitting them out with nicer kitchens and bathrooms than most of who have to pay for private housing can afford.

    #110868
    Daave63
    Daave63
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    I appreciate that you may be paying rent but it is not at a market rate so it’s effectively subsidised by the rest of us, therefore I don’t think they should be fitting them out with nicer kitchens and bathrooms than most of who have to pay for private housing can afford.

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    Not quite sure how much you think council rent is Nen, but it ain’t cheap and the council tax is the same as a ‘private house’.
    Perhaps next time the council decide to upgrade any of their housing stock, they should pop down to the skip site for some old cupboards that someone has thrown out! I’m thinking of redecorating my stairs & landing, I fancy a shade of light brown, so I have been having a shit in a tin all week add two parts water, should look lovely!

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