Ty Pawb – success

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  • #147321

    Matt
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    It’s a shambles, you are being optimistic even with giving it 6 weeks. It was empty at lunch time today. It is a total embarrassment to the town.

    Everyone who says let’s get behind this project, stop being negative in various outlets online – should actually give us a tally of how many times they have visited Ty Pawb since it opened and how much money roughly they’ve spent there – as platitudes are going to do nothing for ongoing trade in there.

    The only other thing I have observed so far is people taking photos of Plat Bach food and I swear it’s always the same dishes. People are soon going to get bored of doing that after going once. Everyone loved that fish shop in town across from KFC that’s now got Everland in it, until they didn’t and it ceased trading.

    #147501

    Council Watcher
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    The article about Ty Pawb has shown some very strange thinking on behalf of the Council – a figure of 10,000 shoulder to shoulder is not a good headline. The reality on Monday was that that inside did not see what was there as they were effectively being pushed around by a single crowd. Browsing for many was non-existent and therefore may not come back due to the ‘shoulder to shoulder’ experience.

    Shopping or eating has to be a good experience to generate repeat visits – the opening Monday did not offer that.

    As for the lack of WiFi and to be “expected in that type of building” – that is a ludicrous statement and shows that either the architects had not put a full specification together or the IT contractor is undersupplying routers and booster points. If the Broadband is in the building the signal should be readily available. Are the traders having to leave their stalls and go and make business calls outside?

    The new study area in Glyndwr Uni looks far more inviting, relaxing with variable light options arty and a space to enjoy food and company — and yes it is a modern design.

    #147706

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    Does anyone know if it is true that some stall holders are now being offered a second unit at a significantly reduced rate in order that TY Pawb gets full occupancy due to the lack of taking-up of the last 1/3rd of the units? If this is the case then old style People Market management is creeping in – anything to make the place look full.

    Still, no web site so no one can find out what’s going on!! Three years in the planning and still no online publicity..

    #147809

    wrexview
    Participant

    If there are still spare units why don’t Wrexham Council relocate the Tourist Information Office to Ty Pawb. It would encourage extra footfall and be a good fit for the Centre.

    #147827

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    Tourist Infomation doesn’t open on a Saturday so it would have shutters down and still look like an empty unit

    #147835

    speakeroftruth
    Participant

    The small town sheriffs will do anything they can to try and make this carbuncle work. Fools shut it down now and save any further waste of OUR money

    #147851

    wrexview
    Participant

    The Tourist Information Office should open on a Saturday, the busiest day of the week for trade and tourism. How much money is paid out by the Welsh Tourist Board to attract visitors not to mention Destination Wrexham , surprised neither of them has questioned this before.

    #147881

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    Don’t forget both Ty Pawb and Tourist Infomation are closed on Sunday- are we not trying to create Wrexham as a seven day a week visitor attraction or just five days.

    Retailers who have taken over Ty Pawb have no rent conditions to have to open up- I have also been told that there are additional costs to be levied for any of the retailers or food stalls if they want to open up on a Sunday as the cost of security and cleaning are not costed for a seven day a week customer offer.

    Similar restrictions have been put on the traders who may wish to open up in the evening when there is a non-Council event being held at a minimum of two doormen are required while the serving of alcohol takes place as this was not included in the Ty Pawb budget.

    I wonder if the Council has worked out yet what the cost is per day/hour to have the building open- heat, lighting, security, cleaning, duty manager etc.

    #147884

    jimbow
    Participant

    I wonder if the Council has worked out yet what the cost is per day/hour to have the building open- heat, lighting, security, cleaning, duty manager etc.

    I presume the Council have done this as how else can they come up with a Service Charge.

    On previous Council Market contracts it was written that the amount the Council incurred in running the Market from 1st January to 31st December for each calendar year, was recharged to stallholders from 1st April to 31st March in the following financial year.
    Obviously Ty Pawb has only been open since 1st April therefore tenants are being charged a Service Charge that has not been verified, if the contracts are written up in the same way.

    #147886

    99DylanJones
    Participant

    Perhaps one of the stall holders could enlighten us on the conditions — if it is 12 months in arrears then the risk is the place is closed in 12 months and the liabilities do not become recoverable

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