Ty Pawb merry go round (again)

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  • #169300
    Rob
    Rob
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    Interestingly the Council have not published the TY Pawb report that is due to go to Scrutiny next Thurssday- reports are normally out late Wed/Thursday am the previous week.
    Ty Pawb is supposed to be a centre of creativity so we might see a masterpiece of creative writing being produced!!
    Someone must be burning the midnight oil!

    It exists, and will be out later today.

    Interesting the original draft plan was top secret, until it accidentally got sent out to all media in 2015 ( http://www.wrexham.com/news/peoples-market-car-park-charges-to-double-in-arts-hub-plan-105111.html / http://www.wrexham.com/news/arts-hub-plan-shows-10-year-900000-loss-105399.html ) whereas the brand new business plan that is being released today is a public document.

    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #169756

    DerekJackson
    Participant

    Well done Wrexham.com on a very comprehensive report – at present the Council do not have the web cast available on their site.

    It looks like there was some robust questioning- interesting that a potential cleaning contractor pulled out due to TUPE- the cleaning staff level previously was minimal for the market and worked for the Council arms length trading company.

    Looks like there is still no ongoing commitment from the Arts Council with the answer being no grant = no exhibitions which surely = less people = reduced viability.

    Still no mention about all of the internal costs that are not being charged to the Ty Pawb budget- audit, finance, hr etc- all of which would be crucial for any future management model.

    #169783

    Matt
    Participant

    It is perhaps interesting that the detractors of Ty Pawb were referred to as seagulls when Eric Cantona once famously said:

    “When seagulls follow the trawler it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea”.

    Which perfectly represents what the Local Executive Board did when they heard Welsh Arts Grants were being thrown about by the WAG and they had a failing space that needed investment.

    Now they are still following hoping for more arts grants with no guarantee of getting them. They are going to be left with an embarrassing failed space.

    We’ll see who are the seagulls.

    #169899

    DerekJackson
    Participant

    There seems some confusion in the report on Wrexham.com today about the Wrexham Music CoOperative and Wrexham Symphony Orchestra as they are two seperate organisations. WMC was formed after the drastic cuts to the Council Music Budget- WSO is totally seperate – the Chair of this group however is Derek Jones who is also Chair of the Ty Pawb Advisory Board..

    #169914
    Rob
    Rob
    Keymaster

    There seems some confusion in the report on Wrexham.com today about the Wrexham Music CoOperative and Wrexham Symphony Orchestra as they are two seperate organisations. WMC was formed after the drastic cuts to the Council Music Budget- WSO is totally seperate – the Chair of this group however is Derek Jones who is also Chair of the Ty Pawb Advisory Board..

    No confusion.

    From the article, “We later contacted Lead Member for Education, Cllr Phil Wynn, on how a report last year noted that the council had “…established a partnership with the Wrexham Symphony Orchestra and the university, as well as Ty Pawb” and how that partnership has fallen apart so drastically.

    That line is from http://www.wrexham.gov.uk/assets/pdfs/information_reports/2018/wrexham-music-co-operative.pdf – the report from the council on the Coop setup.

    “The co-op have set up Twitter and other social media platforms
    to link with all Wrexham schools, established a partnership with the Wrexham
    Symphony Orchestra and the university, as well as Ty Pawb and have already
    applied for several grants for the new service – one of these is from the Andrew
    Lloyd Webber foundation that have previously supported other activities within the
    North Wales Music Co-operative. “
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    (Wrexham.com'er - email us on news@wrexham.com)

    #169926

    Matt
    Participant

    It seems to me from the article like the Wrexham Music Cooperative have their hands full making sure that music provision in schools is maintained to a decent standard after all of the cuts and threats from the budgets.

    But now as per usual because Ty Pawb is such a political albatross hanging around the neck of many elected councillors they are trying to harass the Wrexham Music Cooperative into using the space because the uptake on the usage is not that great and because the WMC will attract arts and music style grants in which the council is so desperate to point out that that is what the space is for.

    I think the bottom line is that Ty Pawb is not being ran by the right type of people to bring in both commercial and not for profit and community ventures across the county to use it. They are still expecting people to jump at wanting to use Ty Pawb or knowing how to go about organising something in Ty Pawb without them doing any of the real nitty gritty outreach work.

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