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    Atkinson has implied in his tweet that Ty Pawb would have failed without the Chester Street/ Henblas link. He describes it as a “key, vital walkway”. The corollary of this statement is that, without this “vital link”, Ty Pawb would not be commercially viable. If the success of the £4.5m project relies on this back passage, God help the council tax payers.

    We should expect and demand, that our Councillors reflect the aspirations of Council Tax payers and the wider community. They, the Councillors, have little or no commercial or professional experience in delivering viable, profitable commercial projects. They may think they have, however, just because they can clean windows or put out fires, it doesn’t commercially qualify them – so let’s throw a bucket of water on that assumption.

    The absence of ‘gushing news’ in relation to the letting of the concessions within Ty Pawb means that none, or few, have been taken. Would you invest or borrow money to invest in an Elephant project? You will note that the ‘White’ has been omitted, this is because the ‘White’ has been transferred to the faces of the councillors who have led this unviable, unpopular project. In fact, the first of the lemmings has leapt today – getting out whilst the going is good!

    This project will go up in a puff of smoke along with the grand opening fireworks that we are also funding, unfortunately the ashes will be a burden to us all for years to come. To carry on with work at Ty Pawb is like painting the Titanic before it sails – so pull the plug now so it can’t sink…..

    #144135

    Let’s merge two of the headline topics on Wrexham.com this week. The ‘Grand Opening’ of Ty Pawb and also the reported fact that Wrexham (along with Cardiff) has the highest Rough Sleepers/Homeless numbers in Wales. What do we get when we merge these topics – “The Ty Pawb Day-Care Centre”.
    The Council have provided a £4.5 million day care centre for the homeless where they can leave the night shelters and streets and keep dry, warm and clean during the day whilst admiring the ‘art’ in Ty Pawb . If they bring their bedding with them, they will provide art to match the highly regarded Unmade Bed of Tracy Emmin. In fact, given the much publicised “Statues of King Street”, a completely new human art-form could be established at Ty Pawb much to the envy of Altrincham !
    With the PC status of the world today, which councillors or council officials will deny access? Are they (the people) to be deprived of the cultural jewels that Ty Pawb promises?

    #144141

    Liz Jackson
    Participant

    I can’t believe it but I’m actually inclined to believe your thinking- you have of course forgotten that the customers of the cafes in Ty Pawb will be encouraged to buy a ‘layaway’ coffee to be given to one of the new human art forms that you have described.

    The beauty of human art form is that it can change shape on so many occasions – it could be propped up against the wall in a portrait pose or along the floor in landscape mode.

    You have also not mentioned that human art form can use all of your senses to get a full experience – visual, sound as humans make such variety grunts and groans depending on their given state, smell- this could change as the week goes by with the human odour wafting around the art forms.

    Thank you, Council for clearing the streets of Wrexham and creating a central hub to have the human underbelly of Wrexham on full display in one place– or will there be an additional cost of at least two security guards on patrol that has not been budgeted for ir recharged to the traders who have been encouraged to take up trading space amingst the human art forms..

    #144351

    jimbow
    Participant

    votethecouncillorsout.
    I have reservations over Ty Pawb. On the market side there appear to be 20 stalls available to let. A market to have a reasonable chance of being a success requires variety. It looks as if there are about 5 or 6 stalls in the Butchers Market that came from the old Peoples Market. If all these relocate back to Ty Pawb, how will the other 14 or so stalls be let and with what merchandise? It worries me, and is further compounded by the Council’s lack of information on lettings. Let’s hope the back passage works and everything comes out right.

    #144354

    Council Watcher
    Participant

    The small print in the Techniquest deal is that it is a ‘short’ lease to test the water to approach funders to give investment– in other words, this is a Pop-Up shop/activity centre that may or may not survive.
    The Glyndwr site is staying open so why would you want to come to the town centre site in a bus with no parking or go to the University site were parking is right by the Tecniquest.

    #144355

    Wrexham.com have reported “Bithell points out ‘if we do not generate income in one way, we will have to cut services’.

    They, our esteemed Councillors are spending and estimated £300k per annum running Ty Pawb and £100k on the opening day alone – how does this fit with Bithell’s statement above, which was made today. Ty Pawb, A vanity project to puff out the chests of councillors at our collective expense. We will follow Northampton’s bankrupt model, that is the only thing that will save us from these councillors.

    Vote the councillors out.

    #144361

    jimbow
    Participant

    The small print in the Techniquest deal is that it is a ‘short’ lease to test the water to approach funders to give investment– in other words, this is a Pop-Up shop/activity centre that may or may not survive.
    The Glyndwr site is staying open so why would you want to come to the town centre site in a bus with no parking or go to the University site were parking is right by the Tecniquest.

    The Techniquest Glyndwr team working with support from Wrexham County Borough Council, Glyndwr University and Welsh Government has enabled this to happen.

    This raises the question, how much in monetary terms have Wrexham Council put in to enable this to happen. The rates and rent for this building in the past were outside the Council’s comfort zone. What has changed?

    #144364

    JW
    Participant

    Atkinson actually tweeted:

    “Delighted that Techniquest and the new Arts Hub will compliment each other as an attraction and boost that part of town but over the moon to get that key, vital walkway open from Chester Street to Henblas Street.”

    How does that possibly imply that the arts hub would fail without the walkway? How did you get that from that?
    It’s clearly a separate thing he’s pleased about.

    #144366

    Maureen Gray
    Participant

    I think everyone is missing a trick here, am I the only one who thinks that Ty Pawb my disappear right up its own back passage!

    #144369

    Matt
    Participant

    Atkinson actually tweeted:

    “Delighted that Techniquest and the new Arts Hub will compliment each other as an attraction and boost that part of town but over the moon to get that key, vital walkway open from Chester Street to Henblas Street.”

    How does that possibly imply that the arts hub would fail without the walkway? How did you get that from that?
    It’s clearly a separate thing he’s pleased about.

    Thanks for the vital updates from the new Executive Board member. Until he agrees to unblock a number of Wrexham rate payers on social media, this is the only way we will see any of his communications – if copy/pasted here.

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